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		<title>How Pentecostals Listen to God</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Educator, author, and pastor Pamela Engelbert shares a story of healing in this excerpt from her book See My Body, See Me. Jade taught me how pentecostals listen to and wait on God. She spoke of a repeated mystical experience that transpired over an extended period during the Sunday evening worship service of her pentecostal church [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>Educator, author, and pastor Pamela Engelbert shares a story of healing in this excerpt from her book </em>See My Body, See Me.</p>
<p>Jade taught me how pentecostals listen to and wait on God. She spoke of a repeated mystical experience that transpired over an extended period during the Sunday evening worship service of her pentecostal church in which she saw herself as a little girl of approximately five years of age. In this repeated experience, Jesus approached the little girl and said, “I want to take you to meet my Father,” to which she responded, “Okay.” However, after they had taken three or four steps, the little girl announced, “Oh, I’ve changed my mind. I want to go play in the park,” to which he replied, “OK. Let’s go play in the park.” Over and over again, Jade envisioned the two of them going to the park and swinging in the swings together instead of going to the Father. After several months of this repeated scenario, on one particular Sunday evening, the little girl did not ask to play in the park, but she accompanied Jesus to meet the Father. Jade believed this change in her response signaled her having experienced sufficient relational healing regarding fathers, affording her a readiness to encounter Jesus’s Father.</p>
<div style="width: 230px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://amzn.to/45p2gIO"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/PEngelbert-SeeMyBodySeeMe2.jpg" alt="" width="220" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">This is an excerpt from: Pamela F. Engelbert, <em><a href="https://amzn.to/45p2gIO">See My Body, See Me: A Pentecostal Perspective on Healing from Sexual Violence</a></em> (Pickwick Publications, 2024)</p></div>
<p>As Jesus and Jade continued walking along a pathway, they came to a doorway, and Jesus said, “This is as far as I can go. You can go in, and the Father is sitting in there on a chair.” When Jade went through the doorway, she entered into a brightly lit room in which she saw God the Father without clearly seeing the Father’s face. As she walked over to the Father, the Father picked her up and placed her on his lap. The Father then lifted her high above his head, moving her around a little while simultaneously tickling her so that the two of them laughed together. After the Father put the little girl down, they began to play hide-and-seek in which she peeked around the Father’s chair and looked at the Father, generating laughter first from the Father and then from her. When she returned to the front of the chair, the Father picked her up and again placed her on his lap and said, “I’m your dad, you know.” The shock of this realization caused her to cry as this was quite exciting for the five-year-old-emotional part of her heart. Amidst her excitement, she went to the far corner of the room and pulled on a huge angel’s robe, saying, “He’s my dad, you know,” and the angel nodded. She then walked over to Jesus, pulled on Jesus’s garment, and said, “He’s my dad, you know,” and Jesus replied, “I’ve been trying to tell you that for a long time.”</p>
<p>It was not until after she had repeatedly experienced this mystical encounter that she realized its significance. When she was almost six years of age, she learned that her stepfather was not her biological father. Her older sister informed her that what Jade believed to be her surname was not actually hers. Her sister warned her: “If you’re bad, my dad is gonna send you to your dad, and your dad doesn’t want you.” Such news shattered Jade’s world as she no longer knew where she belonged. The five-year-old Jade realized in that moment: “Everyone else belongs in this family but me.” But God saw and heard and continued to be aware of her need for healing even when she remained unaware as an adult. As she stood in a worship service, being open and listening during these divine-initiated encounters, Jade’s unknown needs for identity and belonging were being healed.</p>
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<p><strong>Further Reading</strong></p>
<p>More about <em>See My Body, See Me</em>: <a href="/a-pentecostal-perspective-on-healing-from-sexual-violence-an-interview-with-pamela-f-engelbert/">A Pentecostal Perspective on Healing from Sexual Violence: An interview with Pamela F. Engelbert</a></p>
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		<title>Ministering to the Needs of the World: 2018 International Dialogue between the World Communion of Reformed Churches and Classical Pentecostals</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2018 22:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mel Robeck]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mel Robeck has shared with Pneuma Review the press release from the International Dialogue between the World Communion of Reformed Churches and Classical Pentecostals, which concluded on December 4, 2018. Representatives of various classical Pentecostal churches and a delegation from the World Communion of Reformed Churches met in Legon, Accra, Ghana, November 29 &#8211; December [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em><a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/cecilmrobeckjr/">Mel Robeck</a> has shared with </em>Pneuma Review <em>the press release from the International Dialogue between the World Communion of Reformed Churches and Classical Pentecostals, which concluded on December 4, 2018.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Representatives of various classical Pentecostal churches and a delegation from the World Communion of Reformed Churches met in Legon, Accra, Ghana, November 29 &#8211; December 4, 2018. This meeting was the fifth session of the third round, which is focused on “Ministering to the Needs of the World.”</p>
<div style="width: 358px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Pentecostal-Reformed2018-2.jpg" alt="" width="348" height="261" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The participants were photographed on the campus of Trinity Theological Seminary, where the Methodist scholar on Pentecostal and Charismatics, Dr. Kwabena has recently become President. Pictured left to right, row one: Bas Plaisiar, Teresa (Tess) Chai, Jacqui Grey, and Van Johnson. Row two: Karla Koll, Jean-Daniel Plüess, Gabrielle Rácsok, and Setri Nyomi. Row three: David Daniels, <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/cecilmrobeckjr/">Mel Robeck</a>, Hanns Lessing.</p></div>
<p>At the beginning and end of each day, participants gather to pray, sing, read and reflect upon the Bible together. This time of sharing in spirituality and worship helps to contextualize the discussions that take place, and builds greater community between participants.</p>
<p>This year, the dialogue focused on the significance of eschatology (those things having to do with the end of time and the return of Jesus, which is our blessed hope) to Mission. To open the discussion, the Rev. Dr. Karla Ann Koll (Reformed) and Rev. Dr. Van Johnson (Pentecostal) prepared and presented papers reflective of the teachings of their faith communities on this topic. Participants then raised questions and responded in a free-ranging discussion intended to tease out common interests and common concerns, while noting differences in understanding.</p>
<p>In her presentation, Dr. Koll demonstrated that Reformed Christians, like Pentecostals, anticipate the return of Jesus Christ to bring the Reign of God in its fullness. Their primary focus has been on sharing the Gospel and caring for the lives and well-being of others in ways they believe are in keeping with that Reign. Following the teachings of John Calvin regarding the sovereignty of God, and their belief that God’s redemptive intention encompasses all of creation, they have been less focused upon events surrounding the Second Coming, and more on the call for the Church to minister until Christ’s return. They maintain that the Holy Spirit empowers them both to promote the Gospel, and work to transform culture and society in keeping with Christ’s will.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Pentecostal-Reformed2018-6.jpg" alt="" width="290" height="218" />Dr. Johnson made the case that both time and space have challenged the way Pentecostals think about and act upon their understanding of eschatology. Pentecostals believe that God has been restoring the purity, passion, and power of the church through the Holy Spirit, in anticipation of the imminent return of Christ and the inauguration of His kingdom. Like the early church, their expectation that time was short before Christ’s return, has motivated much of their mission activity, in which they have emphasized the proclamation of the Gospel to the “lost.” Yet, after a century of existence, Pentecostal views of time are changing, leading to shifts in how they view mission. If they have more time to live and act, their view of the world around them, their space, must be taken more seriously than in the past. While continuing to affirm the soon return of the Lord, their notion of mission has broadened beyond proclamation or evangelization alone, to include other missional activities. Now, mission includes a range of activities extending from evangelism to creation care as signs of the future kingdom.</p>
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		<title>Pope Francis Recognizes Dialogue with Pentecostals is Important</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 22:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mel Robeck]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Friends and Colleagues, This past Friday morning (September 28, 2018), Pope Francis met with the bishops who oversee the work of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (PCPCU). Cardinal Kurt Koch is President of the PCPCU and Bishop Brian Farrell is its Secretary. The bishops responsible for ecumenism who relate to the PCPCU [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends and Colleagues,</p>
<p>This past Friday morning (September 28, 2018), Pope Francis met with the bishops who oversee the work of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (PCPCU). Cardinal Kurt Koch is President of the PCPCU and Bishop Brian Farrell is its Secretary. The bishops responsible for ecumenism who relate to the PCPCU gather at once each year to review a specific project and see how things have progressed. I have not yet obtained the opening remarks of Cardinal Koch, but Pope Francis made a speech to the members of the PCPCU regarding their work with Pentecostals, Charismatics, and Evangelicals.</p>
<p>Pope Francis is most interested in the work with Classical Pentecostals as well as Charismatics. The PCPCU has been in dialogue with Classical Pentecostals since 1972. More recently, the PCPCU has met with Charismatics under that rubric, including a number of independent Pentecostal preachers like Kenneth Copeland, as well as a number of non-denominational Charismatic and megachurch pastors.</p>
<p>The dialogue with Classical Pentecostals began under the leadership of David du Plessis (at that time defrocked by the Assemblies of God &#8211; he was later reinstated). In 1985 David was succeeded by his younger brother, Justus du Plessis (Apostolic Faith Mission of South Africa), who served as co-chair until 1992. At that time, I was elected to serve as the Pentecostal Co-chair.</p>
<p>The Dialogue is now in its seventh round, each of which has run from 5 to 8 years, with a couple of breaks. All previous rounds were completed with full, written reports that have been circulated widely and have been cited in a number of academic papers. They have all been well received. I have listed the places where they have been published below.</p>
<div style="width: 272px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/320px-Saint_Peters_Basilica_at_sunset.jpg" alt="" width="262" height="188" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Saint Peter&#8217;s Basilica at sunset.<br /><small>Image: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Saint_Peter%27s_Basilica_at_sunset.jpg">Wikimedia Commons</a></small></p></div>
<p>For over 35 years, I have watched closely what the past three popes have had to say about Pentecostals. I believe that this is the first and fullest formal address given on the topic of Pentecostals by any pope to date. It is clear that Pope Francis recognizes some of the issues between Catholics and Pentecostals, but it is equally clear that he believes that this dialogue is particularly important. He highlights the work of the Spirit in ways that Pentecostals would likely highlight it, and I believe that it could be of help to other Pentecostals and Charismatics with ecumenical interests to see how strongly he supports the International Catholic &#8211; Pentecostal Dialogue which is overseen by the PCPCU.</p>
<p>I hope that you enjoy reading this short piece, and will take the time to look up some of the past reports made by members of the Dialogue. Please note the bibliographical information below.</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">“<strong>Audience of the Holy Father with participants in the Plenary of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, 28.09.2018</strong>”</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2018/09/28/180928a.html">http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2018/09/28/180928a.html</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Johnson]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On behalf of the leadership of Asia Pacific Theological Seminary, I am pleased to extend an invitation to you to attend the annual William Menzies Lectureship that will be held on our campus in Baguio City, Philippines, on January 15-19, 2018. The speaker will be Dr. Mel Robeck and the theme is Pentecostals and Ecumenism: [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="aligncenter" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/201801WmMenziesLectureship.jpg" alt="" /> On behalf of the leadership of Asia Pacific Theological Seminary, I am pleased to extend an invitation to you to attend the annual William Menzies Lectureship that will be held on our campus in Baguio City, Philippines, on January 15-19, 2018. The speaker will be <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/cecilmrobeckjr/">Dr. Mel Robeck</a> and the theme is <strong>Pentecostals and Ecumenism: Lost Opportunity or Hopeful Challenge?</strong></p>
<p>For more information, please use my contact information or <a href="mailto:dave.johnson@agmd.org">email me</a>.</p>
<p>I sure hope you can come!</p>
<p>All of us at APTS wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous New Year,</p>
<p>Dr. Dave Johnson<br />
Director, APTS Press</p>
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		<title>Cindy Wooden: Pope Plans Pentecost Celebrations with Charismatics and Pentecostals</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2017 13:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cindy Wooden, “Pope Plans Pentecost Celebrations with Charismatics and Pentecostals” Crux (May 2, 2017). This very brief article in the Catholic journal Crux reveals that Pope Francis is hosting a celebration of the 50th anniversary of the beginnings of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal (CCR hereafter). He admitted that when the CCR first came to Argentina [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Cindy Wooden, “<a href="https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2017/05/02/pope-plans-pentecost-celebrations-charismatics-pentecostals/">Pope Plans Pentecost Celebrations with Charismatics and Pentecostals</a>” <em>Crux</em> (May 2, 2017).</strong></p>
<p>This very brief article in the Catholic journal <em>Crux</em> reveals that Pope Francis is hosting a celebration of the 50<sup>th</sup> anniversary of the beginnings of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal (CCR hereafter). He admitted that when the CCR first came to Argentina where he was a young priest he did not think much of it, believing it to be a sort of “Samba school.” But as he saw the effect of the CCR on the Argentine Catholic Church he became more and more appreciative of it.</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/PopeFrancisInvitation.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="172" />Pope Francis has intentionally opened up the celebration to Pentecostals and charismatics who are non-Catholic.<a href="#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">[1]</a> The celebrations will begin at the end of May and be highlighted with two prayer events (a night vigil and open air mass) on June 3 &amp; 4.</p>
<p>Stay tuned for more news on this.</p>
<p>For your information, the CCR has 120 million adherents world-wide, mostly in the Third World. This is so because in the Third World there is often much open witchcraft and shamanism which demands the gifts of the Sprit to effectively counter. Not so in the United States, where Satan has made great gains by lying low and allowing atheism and agnosticism to thrive and send people to hell.</p>
<div style="width: 351px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/CLFConfence-DeArteagasRanaghans.jpg" alt="" width="341" height="256" /><p class="wp-caption-text">“Carolyn and I standing with an Anglican Bishop from Africa to my left and Dorothy and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Ranaghan">Kevin Ranaghan</a> seated. They were part of the original Duquesne Catholic group that began the CCR, and have remained its most influential leaders.”</p></div>
<p>The CCR began in the United States in 1967, when some instructors and students in Duquesne University were moved by reading David Wilkerson’s<em> <a href="http://amzn.to/2qvhv0J">The Cross and Switchblade</a></em>, a highly anointed book which was then a best-seller and mainstay of charismatics of all denominations.<a href="#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">[2]</a> In its first years, the CCR grew exponentially, especially in the United States. It seemed as if the entire Catholic Church would be swept up in revival and Pentecost. Significantly, CCR groups that became covenant communities, where whole families lived together, were the organizing arm of the great charismatic/Pentecostal conventions, including “Kansas City 1977” and later ones.</p>
<p>Ironically, David Wilkerson did not like that and remained a stout anti-Catholic all of his life. In fact, at the beginning of the CCR he prophesied that the Catholic Bishops would come down on the CCR and Spirit-filled Catholics. They would have to come over to traditional Pentecostalism.<a href="#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3">[3]</a> Of course that did not happen, but the breaks seemed to have come on in the American CCR in the 1980s. Just why is unclear. My sense is that the CCR stumbled by confusing the ministry of the Holy Spirit and his presence, with exaggerated Marian devotion, and that grieved the Sprit.<a href="#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4">[4]</a> Thankfully, that sad story was not repeated in the Third World where the CCR continues strong even to this day. In Africa, for instance, the CCR cooperates with the Anglican churches, which are largely charismatic, and are joined in producing an ongoing revival.</p>
<div style="width: 252px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/CarolynBillGloriaDeArteaga.jpg" alt="" width="242" height="181" /><p class="wp-caption-text">From left to right: Carolyn and Bill De Arteaga and Bill&#8217;s sister, Gloria.<br />Three Catholics awaiting a new wave of the Spirit: Carolyn, a “crypto-Catholic” (Carolyn ministers in a Pentecostal church but says she would happily join the Catholic Church because of its beautiful churches); Bill, an ex-Catholic and now happy “Anglican Pentecostal;” and Bill&#8217;s sister Gloria, who has always been Catholic.</p></div>
<p>On a personal note, I first encountered the CCR in 1974, after years in the atheistic wilderness, in a Catholic home bible study group. That was two years after my sister, a nun (who recently celebrated her 55<sup>th</sup> year as a Sister of Charity), wrote me about the CCR. I thought she had gone crazy – until I received the same “insanity.”</p>
<p>Sister Gloria, my sister (see pictures), was one of the first nuns of the order to embrace it. Later, she joined a convent that was all charismatic and dedicated to bringing the CCR to her order, the Sisters of Charity. That, sadly, did not happen.</p>
<div style="width: 202px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/NenaGuatemalaNuns.jpg" alt="" width="192" height="144" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Sister Gloria with her Guatemalan postulants.</p></div>
<p>Back to the present. The Pope’ invitation to Catholics and other Spirit-Filled believers is wonderful news. Perhaps the Spirit is laying the groundwork for new wave of revival and Holy Spirit power, and that this time it will not ebb, but even refresh older Pentecostals and charismatics who have been hit hard by the TV Evangelists’ scandals. I am praying that this be true. Join me in praying for revival.</p>
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<p><strong>Learn more: </strong><a href="http://www.ccrgoldenjubilee2017.org/">Catholic Charismatic Renewal Golden Jubilee 2017</a></p>
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<p><strong>Notes</strong></p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1">[1]</a> Does this phrase, “charismatics who are non-Catholic,” irritate you? As a pious Catholic kid in the 1950’s I believed the <em>real</em> divide in the world was between Catholics and non-Catholics. Similarly, at the same time my future wife believed the world was divided between Baptists and non-Baptists.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2">[2]</a> David Wilkerson, <em><a href="http://amzn.to/2qvhv0J">The Cross and the Switchblade</a></em> (New York: Pyramid Books, 1970).</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3">[3]</a> David Wilkerson, <em><a href="http://amzn.to/2qvd3zo">The Vision: A Terrifying Prophecy of Doomsday that is Starting to Happen Now!</a></em> (New York: Pyramid, 1974). His false (and potentially destructive) prophecy is a case study of a fine Pentecostal minister and anointed leader who could not discern his own prejudices from the voice of the Spirit. This is why Paul enjoined all prophecy to be tested.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref4" name="_ftn4">[4]</a> The great Catholic theologian of the CCR tactfully says the same thing, see his masterwork evaluation of the CCR: Peter Hocken, <em><a href="http://amzn.to/2dbMTaL">The Glory and the Shame: Reflections on the 20th Century Outpouring of the Holy Spirit</a> </em>(Gilford: Eagle, 1994) [Editor’s note: Read William De Arteaga’s <a href="http://pneumareview.com/peter-hocken-the-glory-and-the-shame/">review of <em>The Glory and the Shame</em></a>].</p>
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		<title>Jelle Creemers: Theological Dialogue with Classical Pentecostals</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amos Yong]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jelle Creemers, Theological Dialogue with Classical Pentecostals: Challenges and Opportunities, Ecclesiological Investigations 23 (New York and London: Bloomsbury/T &#38; T Clark, 2015), x + 320 pages. The Roman Catholic-Pentecostal Dialogue has completed five rounds since it was launched in 1971. Each round has consisted of weeklong or so meetings for five or more years, followed [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://amzn.to/2q2sqPx"><img class="alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/JCreemers-TheologicalDialogue.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="270" /></a><strong>Jelle Creemers, <em><a href="http://amzn.to/2q2sqPx">Theological Dialogue with Classical Pentecostals: Challenges and Opportunities</a></em>, Ecclesiological Investigations 23 (New York and London: Bloomsbury/T &amp; T Clark, 2015), x + 320 pages.</strong></p>
<p>The Roman Catholic-Pentecostal Dialogue has completed five rounds since it was launched in 1971. Each round has consisted of weeklong or so meetings for five or more years, followed in the last three rounds by multiple years of drafting and rewriting of the final reports. The first two rounds (1971-1976 and 1977-1982, with 1978 being a bye year due to the unexpected death of Pope John Paul I) engaged assorted topics of mutual interest, while the last three rounds have been more thematically focused: on the nature of the church (1985-1989), on evangelization and proselytism (1990-1997), and on becoming a Christian (1998-2006).</p>
<p><div class="simplePullQuote"><p><strong><em>Dialogue that works toward understanding – not any watered down synthesis.</em></strong></p>
</div>Creemers teaches at the Evangelische Theologische Faculteit in Leuven, Belgium, where he also completed his PhD degree that is the basis for this book. Whereas a number of other volumes have been published on one or more rounds of the Dialogue, this is the first one that covers the five completed rounds of discussion, and it is also the only to focus on the question of theological method. At one level, followers of the <em>Pneuma Review</em> might consider this a rather dispensable exercise. Pentecostal ministers especially are doers rather than theoreticians and considerations of method seem quite speculative and abstract. Even if readers might be interested in the topics taken up in the Dialogues, Creemers’ reflections might seem beside the point (of evangelism, for example!). Yet I encourage potential readers, especially Pentecostal clergy, to withhold judgment for three reasons. First, there have been many who have argued that Pentecostals are ecumenical even if they might deny or not even realize this, and if that is the case, engaging this volume will provide one fascinating point of entry into the <em>what</em> (is ecumenism) and <em>why</em> (Pentecostals are such) of this important set of issues related to unity that Jesus prayed for. Second, the writing opens up to a narrative of the Dialogues, and in that sense there is an unfolding of a plot full of twists and turns involving primary agents (who were present in many if not most of the rounds) and other secondary characters (those participants in two rounds or only one) that might be unanticipated for theological books. Last but not least, to think about the methodological underpinnings of these exercises provides another window into the nature of Pentecostal spirituality and realities that the movement’s practitioners and ministers will find informative, especially vis-à-vis their own efforts to comprehend themselves theologically.</p>
<p><div class="simplePullQuote"><p><strong><em>There have been many who have argued that Pentecostals are ecumenical, even if they might deny or not even realize it.</em></strong></p>
</div>So what does Creemers find? Or, first, how does he go about looking for Pentecostal theological method when such is rarely or never made explicit? There are four main chapters in the body of the book through which the quest is undertaken. First, Creemers profiles how members of the Pentecostal Dialogue teams have attempted to understand themselves as a conversionist, revivalist, and restorationist movement, and how such starting points already chart certain methodological trajectories. Second, efforts – contested, as the book portrays – to adequately represent a quite diverse worldwide Pentecostal movement in the dialogue teams are indicative of how an egalitarian set of ecclesiological sensibilities generates a fragmented movement and this also has methodological implications, not least for how the Dialogues have unfolded. Third, then, Creemers analyzes one weeklong session within each of the five rounds – the second year, because that is when the main topics are presented for that round of dialogues – and unveils how reading and exposition of papers have been followed by “hard questions” raised by both sides to the other for discussion (first intra-murally and then inter-murally) in order to clarify perspectives, identify differences, and anticipate possible convergences or ways forward. Finally, the aims, sources, and approaches of each of rounds of Dialogue are assessed, in chronological order, and then also vis-à-vis their Final Reports.</p>
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		<title>Pentecostals and the World: Reflections on the 2015 Society for Pentecostal Studies Convention</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 21:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monte Rice]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thank God who enabled me to participate in the 44th Annual Meeting for the Society for Pentecostal Studies held at Southeastern University, Lakeland, Florida, on March 12-14, 2015. This was my fourth consecutively attended SPS meeting, having attended my first in 2012. I find this simply miraculous, given that I live overseas in Southeast [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thank God who enabled me to participate in the 44th Annual Meeting for the Society for Pentecostal Studies held at Southeastern University, Lakeland, Florida, on March 12-14, 2015. This was my fourth consecutively attended SPS meeting, having attended my first in 2012. I find this simply miraculous, given that I live overseas in Southeast Asia. Given the considerable costs involved, for which I am grateful to so many people worldwide who helped me make this trip, I was and remain convinced that the Lord providentially orchestrated this for His global purposes. In this report on the 2015 SPS conference, I will first survey highlights from this event, and briefly describe what SPS is all about. I will then close by briefly sharing some personal reflections from my involvement with the past meeting.</p>
<div style="width: 586px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CandyGuntherBrown_plenary-SPS2015-576x152.jpg" alt="" width="576" height="152" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Candy Gunther Brown speaking during the plenary session.</p></div>
<p><strong>Meeting highlights</strong></p>
<div style="width: 210px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/SPS2015scholarsWorship-600x450.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="150" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Pentecostal/charismatic scholars in worship.</p></div>
<p>This year’s meeting was themed, &#8220;Global Spirit: Pentecostals and the World.&#8221; Via plenary sessions, symposiums, panel discussions, and paper deliveries through the varied Interest Group sessions, I with more than 350 people from across the USA, Asia, Australia, Africa, Europe, and Canada, were gathered to explore, dialogue, and address relations between globalization, Pentecostalism worldwide, and the missional movements of the Holy Spirit throughout the global Church and world today. In doing so, we thus identified and conceptualized theological frameworks most conducive for both assessing the present transformation of world Christianity through global renewal movements, and envisioning directions of worldwide renewal over the coming decades.</p>
<div style="width: 190px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img class="" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/VinsonSynanKenArcher-SPS2015.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="120" /><p class="wp-caption-text">SPS co-founder, <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/vinsonsynan/">Vinson Synan</a>, and <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/kennethjarcher/">Ken Archer</a>.</p></div>
<p>Founded in 1970, the Society for Pentecostal Studies (SPS) has grown into an international scholarly community comprising 500-plus members, who represent more than 60 theologically diverse church traditions and denominations and 190 institutions. Hence, while centered on Pentecostal and Charismatic studies, SPS has evolved into an effective ecumenical forum, which has enabled Pentecostals to participate in theological dialogues within or with other bodies such as the Faith and Order Commission of the National Council of Churches (USA), the Wesleyan Theological Society, the World Alliance of Reformed Churches, as well as with the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox traditions.</p>
<div style="width: 249px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/LatinoDelegation-SPS2015-494x207.jpg" alt="" width="239" height="100" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The 2015 Latino delegation.</p></div>
<p>This year’s conference was graced by four plenary speakers whose respective deliveries provided complementary reflection on the themes of global Pentecostalism, globalization, and the transformation of world Christianity through charismatic renewal worldwide. First to note was Dr. Ivan Satyavrata’s opening plenary address titled, “‘The Wind Blows Where It Wills’: Celebrating the Spirit’s Free Movement in a World without Borders.” Dr Satyavrata leads the Assemblies of God church and its ministry networks in Kolkata, India, much of which was founded by the late Mark Buntain. Speaking for the Friday morning plenary session was Dr. Candy Gunther Brown, Professor of Religious Studies at Indiana University, USA, whose address was titled, “Healing and the Growth of Global Pentecostalism.”</p>
<div style="width: 270px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img class="" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/WomensCaucus-SPS2015-355x187.jpg" alt="" width="260" height="137" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The 2015 Women&#8217;s caucus.</p></div>
<p>The keynote conference speaker was Dr Allan Anderson, Professor of Mission and Pentecostal Studies at the University of Birmingham, United Kingdom. His address was titled, The Transformation of World Christianity: Challenges and Opportunities for Pentecostalism.” Anderson argued that the globalizing power of Pentecostalism is fuelled by an inherent tension it comprises, between a global charismatic, media-driven &#8220;meta-culture,&#8221; and a countervailing localization impulse that coupled with its supernatural worldview, makes Pentecostal spirituality naturally contextual with the common Majority Word holistic worldview, which perceives daily life as thoroughly pervaded with spiritual forces and realities.</p>
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		<title>Miracle Accounts: Majority World Perspectives, by Craig S. Keener</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excerpt from Miracles: The Credibility of the New Testament Accounts, by Craig S. Keener. From Pneuma Review Fall 2013. From Part 3, “Miracle Accounts beyond Antiquity” Chapter 7, “Majority World Perspectives” Pages 238-241 For these countries alone, and for Pentecostals and charismatics in these countries alone, the estimated total of people claiming to have [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>An excerpt from <em>Miracles: The Credibility of the New Testament Accounts</em>, by Craig S. Keener. From <i>Pneuma Review</i> Fall 2013.</p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>From Part 3, “Miracle Accounts beyond Antiquity”</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Chapter 7, “Majority World Perspectives”</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Pages 238-241</p>
<p>For these countries alone, and for Pentecostals and charismatics in these countries alone, the estimated total of people claiming to have “witnessed divine healings” comes out to somewhere around 202,141,082, that is, about two hundred million. Among Pentecostals, an average of 73.6 percent claim to have witnessed or experienced divine healing, and among charismatics the proportion is 52 percent; given estimates of possibly half a billion Pentecostals and charismatics worldwide, we might be looking at claims of closer to three hundred million among them alone.<sup>154</sup> My estimates extrapolate on the assumption that numbers and percentages above are roughly accurate; in fact, all such figures are merely estimates, but they give us the best current ballpark figure to work from. Even if for some reason we later estimated only one-third of these figures (a much greater margin of error than seems likely), the numbers are already enormous even before we add (below) the noncharismatic claims.</p>
<p>Lest I be misunderstood, I must emphasize that in noting the prevalence of healing claims, I am not offering a blanket endorsement of all the beliefs on all issues that command majorities among these groups (elsewhere in the same survey), including beliefs about healings. I am also not suggesting that all claims of cures are authentic; still less am I suggesting that none of the claims could have alternative explanations,<sup>155</sup> though from my research I suspect that the majority of those who claim to have witnessed some miracles could specify some fairly substantive claims.<sup>156</sup> My point here is simply to invite attention to what this survey indicates about the vast numbers of people worldwide who claim to have witnessed supernaturally effected healings. The examples that I offer in the following chapters may make this observation more concrete, but my examples obviously pale before the statistics.</p>
<p><strong>Such Claims Not Limited to Pentecostals</strong></p>
<p>What may be more interesting in this survey, however, is the category of “other Christians,” with somewhere around 39 percent in these countries claiming to have “witnessed divine healings.” That is, more than one-third of Christians worldwide who do not identify themselves as Pentecostal or charismatic claim to have “witnessed divine healings.” Presumably many of these claimants believe that they have witnessed more than a single case. Note that these are not simply people who say that they believe that supernatural healing occurs; these are people who say that they believe that they have witnessed or experienced it.<sup>157</sup></p>
<p>Of course many of these claims would not withstand critical scrutiny, and presumably an even higher percentage would fail to persuade others predisposed not to believe. But those who would simply reject all healing claims today because Hume argued that such claims are too rare to be believable should keep in mind that they are dismissing, almost without argument, the claimed experiences of at least a few hundred million people. (Even if one were to err extremely on the side of modesty, one could easily speak boldly of “tens of millions” of claims.) In contrast to starting assumptions on which Hume built his case, it is no longer feasible to consider such claims rare.</p>
<p>As noted above, the greatest concentration of these claims is in Africa, Asia, and Latin America rather than in the West, though in chapter 11 I shall note abundant examples from the West as well. Non-Pentecostal Western Christian workers active in such areas often report dramatic phenomena similar to those reported by Pentecostals.<sup>158</sup> Worldview is probably one important factor in generating more faith recoveries in many non-Western regions;<sup>159</sup> for example, nearly a decade ago one of my students, a sincere Baptist pastor from India, complained that Americans he prayed for were rarely healed, but almost everyone he prayed for in north India was healed.<sup>160</sup></p>
<p>Accurate or inaccurate, reports of prophetism, dreams, visions, and healings (sometimes of incurable, terminal illnesses) on a massive scale characterize many areas where Christianity is expanding rapidly and with intense religious fervor among non-Christian populations.<sup>161</sup> Although some<sup>162</sup> Westerners historically used cultural dominance from colonial cultures or (especially in Latin America) force to spread Christianization, many indigenous evangelists today instead embrace the missiological model they encounter in Acts and believe that they are following Paul’s model.<sup>163</sup> One Western charismatic missiologist argues that whereas some Asian Christians appreciated Western missionaries bringing teaching about God, many Asian missionaries are now demonstrating God’s power through miracles.<sup>164</sup> Another writer recounts that missionaries to one region in Africa who merely left behind Gospels returned to find a flourishing church with nt-like miracles happening daily, “because there had been no missionaries to teach that such things were not to be taken literally.”<sup>165</sup> Indigenous readings of Scripture often noticed patterns there “that the missionaries did not want [local believers] to see.”<sup>166</sup></p>
<p>Although the most visible growth has occurred in the last three decades,<sup>167</sup> already in 1981, at one large U.S. seminary with students from many nations, Christiaan De Wet of South Africa wrote a thesis on signs involved in church growth around the world. He surveyed more than 350 theses representing most of the world and interviewed countless missionaries. He complained, “My research has turned up so much material on signs and wonders that are happening and churches that are growing, that it is impossible to use all of it.”<sup>168</sup> He noted that miracle claims help drive Christian growth in many parts of the world.</p>
<p><strong>PR</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>This excerpt is from <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/craigskeener/">Craig S. Keener</a>, <em>Miracles: The Credibility of the New Testament Accounts</em>, 2 volumes, Baker Academic, a division of Baker Publishing Group, 2011. Used by permission. All rights to this material are reserved. Material is not to be reproduced, scanned, copied, or distributed in any printed or electronic form without written permission from Baker Publishing Group.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Footnotes appear in the full digital issue of <i>Pneuma Review</i> Fall 2013 and in the book from which this excerpt is derived.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; Did tongues and the supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit cease in the early church? John MacArthur says they did and that practicing them today is false worship—an abomination before God. Pneuma Review invites you to respond to these criticisms and to renew the biblical command to “desire spiritual gifts” (1 Cor 14:1). We’ve [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Strange-Fire-Offending-Counterfeit-Worship/dp/1400205174/ref=as_li_tf_mfw?&amp;linkCode=wey&amp;tag=wildwoocom-20"><img class="size-full wp-image-472 alignright" title="Strange Fire" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/MacArthur-Strange-Fire.jpg" alt="MacArthur Strange Fire" width="231" height="346" /></a>Did tongues and the supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit cease in the early church? John MacArthur says they did and that practicing them today is false worship—an abomination before God.</p>
<p><i>Pneuma Review</i> invites you to respond to these criticisms and to renew the biblical command to “desire spiritual gifts” (1 Cor 14:1).</p>
<p><b>We’ve been here before</b><br />
In 1978, MacArthur wrote <i>The Charismatics: A Doctrinal Perspective </i>(Zondervan). <i>Charismatic Chaos</i> (Zondervan) was published in 1992. Dr. MacArthur launched his latest attacks against Pentecostal/charismatic beliefs with the Strange Fire conference (October 16-18, 2013), with speakers including Joni Eareckson-Tada and R. C. Sproul. His new book is <i>Strange Fire: The Danger of Offending the Holy Spirit with Counterfeit Worship</i> (Thomas Nelson), due out on November 12, 2013.</p>
<p>Not known for a conciliatory approach, John MacArthur’s inflammatory language is sure to polarize any attempt by Christians to discuss the gifts of the Spirit. We all agree that spiritual gifts can be and have been misused. There are significant doctrinal errors and poor theology being taught by some Christian leaders today. But are all Pentecostal/charismatics worshiping God falsely? Are they believing and teaching a counterfeit Gospel?</p>
<p><b>Invitation to participate</b></p>
<p><i>Pneuma Review</i> has invited Pentecostal/charismatic scholars and Bible teachers from around the world to read and respond to MacArthur’s book. This is your opportunity to join the discussion about the continuation or cessation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>Use the Comment box below so that all of us may read your posts.</p>
<p><b>As we have this needed conversation</b></p>
<p>Please keep in mind the Pneuma Foundation’s (parent organization of <i>Pneuma Review</i>) principles for discussing controversial topics.</p>
<blockquote><p>When presenting teachings over which there is disagreement in the body of Christ, the Pneuma Foundation will not make its position in a manner that alienates or ignores opposing views. It is better to follow the Biblical mandate of preferring others over ourselves (Phil. 2:3-4). The Foundation desires to present the differing viewpoints and promote dialogue, acknowledging that the goal of our instruction is love (1 Tim. 1:5).</p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Pentecostals too?</strong> Is John MacArthur being as hard on Pentecostals as he is on charismatics? This brief video by MacArthur might make you think that he is more sympathetic towards classical Pentecostals. However, Dr. Michael Brown sent this note to us that he posted on his Facebook page:</p>
<blockquote><p>For all those writing to me and claiming that Pastor MacArthur is reaching out to &#8220;faithful Pentecostals&#8221; in a conciliatory way, make no mistake about it: He renounces the entire charismatic movement as being in serious error and ends his book with a strong appeal to his reformed charismatic friends to completely renounce their beliefs in continuationism. It&#8217;s black and white, in his book, on my desk, no doubt about it.</p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-r-loren-sandford/"><strong>John MacArthur’s Strange Fire, Reviewed by R. Loren Sandford</strong></a> <a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-r-loren-sandford/"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-489 alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/R.-Loren-Sandford-150x150.jpg" alt="R. Loren Sandford" width="150" height="150" /></a><i>Strange Fire</i> by John MacArthur is basically an attack on anything and everything related to the Charismatic Movement and the various movements descended from it, as if the whole of it were composed of one monolithic set of doctrines and practices that all of us espouse. It invalidates anything that smacks of the supernatural or of emotion freely expressed in God’s presence. MacArthur pours his vitriol – and I mean vitriol – through the filter of his own prejudices and theological presuppositions in a way that blinds&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/review-essay-by-r-loren-sandford/">Read more</a>]</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-eddie-l-hyatt/"><img class="size-full wp-image-518 alignleft" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/hyatt_1-140x2051.gif" alt="hyatt_1-140x205[1]" width="140" height="205" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-eddie-l-hyatt/"><strong>John MacArthur’s Strange Fire, Reviewed by Eddie L. Hyatt</strong></a><br />
As a life-long Pentecostal-Charismatic, I recommend that every Pentecostal-Charismatic leader read <i>Strange Fire</i> by John MacArthur. I say this because we need to see how the bizarre “spiritual” behavior and doctrinal extremes by some in our movement are viewed by those on the outside and are used to whitewash the entire movement. We have done a very poor job of addressing these problems from within, so I do not doubt that God has raised up a voice that is fundamentally opposed to our movement to address these extremes. If God could use a pagan Babylonian king to discipline his people Israel for their sins(Jeremiah 25:8-11), could he not use a merciless fundamentalist preacher&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/review-essay-of-strange-fire-by-eddie-l-hyatt/">Read more</a>]</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/frank-macchia-on-the-gifts-of-god-to-the-church/"><img class="size-full wp-image-561 alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Frank-Macchia.jpg" alt="Frank-Macchia" width="150" height="200" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/frank-macchia-on-the-gifts-of-god-to-the-church/"><strong>Frank Macchia on the Gifts of God to the Church</strong></a><br />
In the context of this hoopla over cessationism, it might be interesting to see how the issue of spiritual gifts was dealt with in the first round of international talks between the World Alliance of Reformed Churches and the Pentecostals (of which I was a participant). We agreed together that all of the gifts from the New Testament have value today, but that both global church families tended to favor different lists of gifts from the New Testament. In response, we affirmed that no single list of gifts is to be held up as all determinative for judging the quality of a church&#8217;s spirituality and that both sides must expand its horizons by embracing the value of the gifts cherished by the other side&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/frank-macchia-on-the-gifts-of-god-to-the-church/">Read more</a>]</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-a-brief-biblical-response-by-jon-ruthven/"><img class="size-full wp-image-589 alignleft" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ruthven_small1.jpg" alt="ruthven_small[1]" width="112" height="170" /></a><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-a-brief-biblical-response-by-jon-ruthven/"><strong>John MacArthur’s Strange Fire, A Brief Biblical Response by Jon Ruthven</strong></a><br />
As we shall see, John MacArthur’s abhorrence of “further revelation” via prophecy and related spiritual gifts derives, not from scripture, but from the frustration of Calvinists under Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658) of watching so many of their members defect to the Quakers, the crazy charismatics of the time. People were falling down, making a lot of noise and encountering Jesus in visions, prophecies, and healings. Sound familiar? Calvinist scholastics responded to this outrage with the Westminster Confession of Faith (WCF)—often now regarded as the gold standard&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-a-brief-biblical-response-by-jon-ruthven/">Read more</a>]</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-as-parody-of-jonathan-edwards-theology-by-william-de-arteaga/"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-650 alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Bill-Dearteaga-1--150x150.jpg" alt="Bill Dearteaga 1" width="150" height="150" /></a><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-as-parody-of-jonathan-edwards-theology-by-william-de-arteaga/">John MacArthur’s Strange Fire as Parody of Jonathan Edwards’ Theology, by William De Arteaga</a></strong><br />
The thesis of John MacArthur’s new book, Strange Fire is that Pentecostalism and the Charismatic Movement, are heretical movements that must be rebuked and eliminated from the church. 1 Everything to do with these movements is fraudulent, inauthentic or a misrepresentation of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Strange Fire continues his war on the Pentecostals and charismatics begun with his book published twenty years ago&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-as-parody-of-jonathan-edwards-theology-by-william-de-arteaga/">Read more</a>]</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-charles-carrin/"><img class="wp-image-795 alignleft" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/CHAS_61.jpg" alt="CHAS_6[1]" width="102" height="145" /></a><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-charles-carrin/">John MacArthur’s Strange Fire, Reviewed by Charles Carrin</a></strong><br />
You will soon be hearing about two books: <i>Strange Fire</i> by Dr. John MacArthur and <i>Holy Fire</i> by Dr. R.T. Kendall. Dr. Kendall has written only in the emergency to defend Scripture and charismatic Christians from Dr. MacArthur attack. John MacArthur is a man of significant Christian stature.  He is the author of more than 150 books, a study Bible, other best-selling material, and a College President.  R.T. Kendall is equally a man of great achievement. He holds a PhD. from Oxford University, authored more than 60 books, for twenty-five years was pastor of&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-charles-carrin/">Read more</a>]</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-craig-s-keener/"><img class="wp-image-814 alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/111110ATS-keener002-200x3001.jpg" alt="111110ATS-keener002-200x300[1]" width="120" height="180" /></a><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-craig-s-keener/">John MacArthur’s Strange Fire, reviewed by Craig S. Keener</a></strong><br />
While offering some very needed points, John MacArthur’s Strange Fire unfortunately extrapolates from those points to an entire “movement.” As I note below, I also believe that MacArthur suppresses some biblical truth on the basis of a postbiblical doctrine, the very offense with which he charges others. Nevertheless, there is much to be learned from his criticisms; he has brought again to our attention some serious errors that charismatic churches must be on their guard against. I start with some agreeable points in the book and then move to points where I believe MacArthur has clearly overstepped the bounds  of reason and Christian civility&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-by-craig-s-keener/">Read more</a></strong>]</p>
<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/frank-viola-why-i-took-time-to-respond-to-john-macarthurs-strange-fire/"><img class="wp-image-1006 alignleft" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/FrankViolaLarge-150x150.jpg" alt="FrankViolaLarge" width="120" height="120" /></a><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/frank-viola-why-i-took-time-to-respond-to-john-macarthurs-strange-fire/">Why I Took Time to Respond to John MacArthur’s Strange Fire</a></strong><br />
Someone has asked me, “Why waste your time on responding to MacArthur’s writings against the charismatics?” When I was in my 20s, I wrote a critique of John MacArthur’s Charismatic Chaos because a brother in the Lord broke fellowship with me and my friends after reading MacArthur’s book. Jesus said to His disciples, “If they reject you, they’ve rejected me.” So to my mind, restoring a brother to&#8230; [<strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/frank-viola-why-i-took-time-to-respond-to-john-macarthurs-strange-fire/">Read more</a></strong>]</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/"><img class="wp-image-814 alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MonteRice201512-187x187.jpg" alt="" width="135" height="135" /></a><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/">John MacArthur’s Strange Fire, reviewed by Monte Lee Rice</a></strong><br />
In this highly polemical book, John MacArthur argues that as an aggressive though “counterfeit” form of Christian spirituality, the global Pentecostal-Charismatic movement is neither founded on nor representative of orthodox Christian doctrine. He claims it has infiltrated and is undermining orthodox Christianity with “counterfeit” theologies, worship beliefs, and practices—all emerging from its heretical doctrine of the Holy Spirit. MacArthur’s stated purpose for writing this book is to therefore galvanize the “evangelical church” in concerted condemnation against its existence&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/">Read more</a></strong>]</p>
<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/strange-fire-and-churches-of-christ/"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1030 alignleft" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/p31_storment_0412-150x150.jpg" alt="p31_storment_0412" width="150" height="150" /><strong>Strange Fire and Churches of Christ</strong></a><br />
Maybe you’ve noticed that over the past few weeks, there has been a lot of talk around charismatic vs. not charismatic protestant Christians. Some people held a conference, and John MacArthur wrote a book about it. Mark Driscoll even showed up at the conference and started giving away his newest book and just confused everyone. But what caught my eye is what these non-Charismatics called the conference. They called it, “Strange Fire” Which may not mean much to you, but&#8230; <strong>[<a href="http://pneumareview.com/strange-fire-and-churches-of-christ/">Read more</a>]</strong></p>
<span class="bk-button-wrapper"><a href="http://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-estranged-by-misinterpretation/" target="_self" class="bk-button yellow center rounded small">John MacArthur’s Strange Fire: Estranged by misinterpretation? (Quotes and Discussion)</a></span>
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<p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tim Challies:</strong> <a href="http://www.challies.com/articles/lessons-learned-at-strange-fire">Lessons Learned at Strange Fire</a></p>
<p><strong>Adrian Warnock:</strong> <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/adrianwarnock/2013/10/strange-fire-a-charismatic-response-to-john-macarthur/?utm_content=buffer544cd&amp;utm_source=buffer&amp;utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=Buffer">Strange Fire – A Charismatic Response to John MacArthur</a></p>
<p><strong>Alex Murashko:</strong> <a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-macarthur-continues-case-against-charismatic-movement-at-strange-fire-backlash-includes-stern-words-by-samuel-rodriguez-106917/">MacArthur Continues Case Against Charismatic Movement at &#8216;Strange Fire&#8217;</a></p>
<p><strong>Alan Smith:</strong> <a href="http://alansmithonline.com/some-thoughts-in-response-to-the-strange-fire-controversy/">Some Thoughts in Response to the Strange Fire Controversy</a></p>
<p><strong>Samuel Rodriguez:</strong> <a href="http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/41432-john-macarthur-suffers-from-spiritual-cultural-and-theological-myopia">John MacArthur Suffers From Spiritual, Cultural and Theological Myopia</a></p>
<p><strong>Joela Barker:</strong> <a href="http://joelabarker.com/a-response-to-john-macarthurs-strange-fire-conference/">A Response to John MacArthur’s Strange Fire Conference</a></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/michaellbrown/">Michael Brown</a>:</strong> <a href="http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/41371-a-final-appeal-to-pastor-john-macarthur-on-the-eve-of-his-strange-fire-conference">A Final Appeal to Pastor MacArthur on the Eve of His &#8216;Strange Fire&#8217; Conference</a></p>
<p><strong>Sarah Pulliam Bailey:</strong> <a href="http://www.religionnews.com/2013/10/18/john-macarthur-vs-mark-driscoll-megachurch-pastors-clash-charismatic-theology/">John MacArthur vs. Mark Driscoll: Megachurch pastors clash</a></p>
<p><strong>Benjamin Robinson:</strong> <a href="http://www.benjaminisraelrobinson.com/strange-fire-a-response-to-john-macarthur/#.UmMnVHCoq84">Strange Fire? A Response to John MacArthur</a></p>
<p><strong>Credo House:</strong> <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2013/10/why-john-macarthur-may-be-losing-his-voice/">Why John MacArthur May Be Losing His Voice</a></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/rtkendall/">R. T. Kendall</a>:</strong> <a href="http://rtkendallministries.com/dear-dr-macarthur">Dear Dr. MacArthur</a></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/jleegrady/">J. Lee Grady</a>: </strong><a href="http://www.charismamag.com/blogs/fire-in-my-bones/18919-to-my-fundamentalist-brother-john-macarthur-grace-to-you-too">To My Fundamentalist Brother John MacArthur: Grace to You Too</a></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/paullking/">Paul L. King</a>: </strong> &#8220;<a href="http://kingsroundtable.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/scarecrows-and-strange-fire/">Scarecrows and Strange Fire</a>&#8221;</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/paullking/">Paul L. King</a>: </strong> &#8220;<a href="http://kingsroundtable.wordpress.com/2013/10/27/is-it-of-god-andrew-murrays-strange-fire/">Is It of God? Andrew Murray’s Strange Fire</a>&#8221;</p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Related articles at PneumaReview.com</span>: </strong></p>
<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/the-theological-pillow-fight-from-the-nosebleed-section/"><img class="alignleft" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/PillowFight.png" alt="" width="196" height="135" /></a>Rob Wilkerson, &#8220;<a href="http://pneumareview.com/the-theological-pillow-fight-from-the-nosebleed-section/">The Theological Pillow Fight from the Nosebleed Section</a>&#8221;<br />
In this review essay by Rob Wilkerson, he reflects on his background as a disciple of John MacArthur, his becoming a continuationist anyway, and his look at Michael Brown’s book, <em>Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur’s Strange Fire</em>.</p>
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<p>&#8220;<a href="http://pneumareview.com/strange-fire-not-in-a-global-pentecostal-context-of-ministry/">Strange Fire? Not in a Global Pentecostal Context of Ministry</a>&#8221; An international panel of ministry veterans responds to John MacArthur’s <em>Strange Fire</em>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/cessationist-misuse/"><img class="alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/284452439_6401.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="59" /></a>Sam Storms, &#8220;<a href="http://pneumareview.com/cessationist-misuse/">Cessationist Misuse of Ephesians 2:20</a>.&#8221;</p>
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<p><a href="https://amzn.to/2M62F8z"><img class="alignleft" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/AuthenticFire.jpg" alt="Authentic Fire" width="100" height="156" /></a>Michael L. Brown, <a href="https://amzn.to/2M62F8z"><em class="amzn-taggable-text">Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur’s Strange Fire</em></a> (Excel Publishers, Dec 12, 2013 and re-released by Charisma House, 2015). Reviewed by: <a title="Authentic Fire review" href="http://pneumareview.com/michael-browns-authentic-fire-reviewed-by-john-king">John King</a>, <a href="http://pneumareview.com/michael-browns-authentic-fire-reviewed-by-daniel-snape/">Daniel Snape</a>, <a href="http://pneumareview.com/michael-browns-authentic-fire-reviewed-by-loren-sandford/">Loren Sandford</a>, and <a href="http://pneumareview.com/mbrown-authentic-fire-wdearteaga/">William De Arteaga</a>.</p>
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<p>PneumaReview.com Editor Raul Mock brings together a conversation asking, &#8220;<a href="http://pneumareview.com/should-we-keep-talking-about-strange-fire/">Should we keep talking about Strange Fire?</a>&#8221;</p>
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<p><a href="https://amzn.to/2sMyz0S"><img class="alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/RTKendall-HolyFire-9781621366041.jpg" alt="Holy Fire" height="156" /></a>R. T. Kendall, <a href="https://amzn.to/2sMyz0S"><i>Holy Fire: A Balanced, Biblical Look at the Holy Spirit&#8217;s Work in Our Lives</i></a> (Charisma House, 2014). Reviewed by: <a href="http://pneumareview.com/rtkendall-holy-fire-ckeener/">Craig S. Keener</a>, <a href="http://pneumareview.com/r-t-kendall-holy-fire-reviewed-by-tony-richie/">Tony Richie</a>, and <a href="http://pneumareview.com/r-t-kendall-holy-fire-reviewed-by-mark-sandford/">Mark Sandford</a>.</p>
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<div style="width: 110px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://amzn.to/2Jnj8Uj"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/StrangersToFire-newcover.jpg" alt="" width="100" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">2016 cover.</p></div>
<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2Jnj8Uj">Strangers To Fire: When Tradition Trumps Scripture</a></em> (The Foundation for Pentecostal Scholarship, 2014 and re-released by Empowered Life, 2016).<br />
<a href="http://pneumareview.com/robert-graves-speaks-with-pneumareview-com-about-strangers-to-fire/">Interview with the editor</a>: PneumaReview.com speaks with The Foundation for Pentecostal Scholarship President, Robert Graves, about their first published book, <em>Strangers to Fire: When Tradition Trumps Scripture</em>.<br />
Reviewed by: <a href="http://pneumareview.com/strangers-to-fire-when-tradition-trumps-scripture-reviewed-by-tony-richie/">Tony Richie</a>, <a href="http://pneumareview.com/strangers-to-fire-when-tradition-trumps-scripture-reviewed-by-john-lathrop/">John Lathrop</a>, and <a href="http://pneumareview.com/jon-ruthvens-further-reflections-on-strangers-to-fire-a-response-to-john-macarthur/">further reflections by Jon Ruthven</a>.</p>
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<p>&#8220;<a href="http://pneumareview.com/the-mouse-under-the-elephant-in-strange-fire/">The Mouse Under the Elephant in Strange Fire</a>&#8221; Rob Wilkerson responds to the article, “The Elephant in the Strange Fire” by Cameron Buettel, published on November 3, 2014 on John MacArthur’s Grace to You ministry website.</p>
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<p><a href="http://pneumareview.com/michael-brown-playing-with-holy-fire"><img class="alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/MBrown-PlayingWithHolyFire.jpg" alt="" width="100" /></a>Michael L. Brown, <em><a href="http://pneumareview.com/michael-brown-playing-with-holy-fire">Playing With Holy Fire: A Wake-Up Call To the Pentecostal-Charismatic Church</a> </em>(Charisma House, 2018). Reviewed by John Lathrop.<br />
<a href="http://pneumareview.com/clearing-the-smoke-fanning-the-flames-an-interview-with-michael-brown/">Clearing the Smoke, Fanning the Flames: An Interview with Michael Brown</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">PneumaReview.com speaks with Dr. Michael L. Brown about his story, <em>Playing With Holy Fire</em>, and encouraging the biblical use of spiritual gifts.</p>
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		<title>You Will Never Know Where You Are Going Until You Know Where You Came From: British Pentecostals’ past development and future challenges</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One hundred years ago, the thought that there would be a new grouping within Evangelicalism that would spread throughout the world with a rate of growth that in certain places would outstrip countries’ birth rates would have been deemed to be a flight of fancy. Yet this is exactly what happened. However, for all their [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One hundred years ago, the thought that there would be a new grouping within Evangelicalism that would spread throughout the world with a rate of growth that in certain places would outstrip countries’ birth rates would have been deemed to be a flight of fancy. Yet this is exactly what happened. However, for all their shared roots, the relationship between Pentecostalism and Evangelicalism has often been distant and uneasy. Nevertheless, Pentecostals have increasingly been interested in examining their historical roots, recognising the points of contact and the diversions that have been part of their history. This article reflects this development. Emerging from the same parental stock, the Pentecostal child has grown into an adult with its own emphases, aspirations and dangers. This article will examine some of these aspects of Pentecostalism.</p>
<p><b>Pentecostalism’s Heritage</b></p>
<p>Pentecostalism’s formation and development looks to the nineteenth century Holiness Movement for its parentage. Perhaps every generation has looked at the Church they have inherited, compared it with the biblical account of the early Church and pronounced the diagnosis that something fundamental was awry. Certainly, by the late nineteenth century, Evangelicalism was ill at ease with itself and had spawned many agencies seeking to kick start the Church back into life.</p>
<p>In Britain, the Holiness Movement, particularly as mediated through the Keswick Convention, became a significant breeding ground for proto-Pentecostals. The theology surrounding this ecumenical event (its motto was ‘All one in Christ Jesus’) focused on the desire for a victorious Christian life that many of its delegates desired above all else. The answer to this overwhelming desire was to be found in an experience of a life lived in the ‘fullness of the Spirit’. Rejecting the more extreme views of ‘sinless perfection’, the clear expectation was that the believer, once justified by faith, could have a distinct divine experience which would become the gateway into leading a ‘life of overcoming’. This life would then be transformed into service—the work of the Spirit would provide the disciple with power to witness.</p>
<p>For many Evangelicals, convinced of the fact that too often the Church was leading a spiritually substandard life, this was deemed to be the obvious answer. Many early proto-Pentecostals became frequent visitors to the convention in Keswick, returning to their mission halls and prayer meetings having claimed this experience of sanctification by faith. That this was the answer to the problems of the Church was given credibility when the Welsh Revival broke out in 1904. Led by the trio of Holiness revivalists: Seth Joshua, Joseph Jenkins and Evan Roberts, the freewheeling dynamism of the Revival awakened many people’s imaginations to the possibility of a much wider spiritual renewal. The Welsh Revival was to be a significant precursor to Pentecostalism for a number of reasons. Some future Pentecostal leaders were converted in the Revival; others, such as Rev. A. A. Boddy, visited Wales and returned to their home churches having witnessed the radical freedom of the services, believing this to be a hallmark of the Spirit in action. A third reason related to the fact that the post-revival period was marked by small home-groups that delineated themselves as ‘Children of the Revival’. It was amongst these groups that Pentecostalism would break out. They had experienced the freedom of the Revival, were convinced that this was what churches had been missing for years and were not content to return to the formalism of non-conformist churches.</p>
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