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		<description><![CDATA[Paul King is a pastor, theologian, historian, and educator. In his book, Is It of God, he provided much needed biblical and practical counsel about discernment. This article is a chapter from the second volume of Is It of God, bringing seasoned wisdom to a controversial topic. &#160; It is clear from Scripture that God [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><em>Paul King is a pastor, theologian, historian, and educator. In his book, </em>Is It of God<em>, he provided much needed biblical and practical counsel about discernment. This article is a chapter from the second volume of </em>Is It of God<em>, bringing seasoned wisdom to a controversial topic.</em></p></blockquote>
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<p>It is clear from Scripture that God does speak through dreams, It is also clear from Scripture that not all dreams are from God. It is thus not a question of whether or not they can be genuinely of God, but a question of discernment of their source (God, self, or demonic), as well as discerning their meaning.</p>
<p>John Wesley gives us wise counsel for today: “Do not hastily ascribe things to God. Do not easily suppose dreams, voices, impressions, visions or revelations to be from God. They may be from Him. They may be from Nature. They may be from the devil. Therefore, believe not every spirit, but ‘try the spirits whether they be from God.’”</p>
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<p><strong>God’s Purposes for Dreams, Visions, and Voices </strong></p>
<p>In talking with Job, Elihu first of all acknowledges that God does speak through dreams: “Indeed God speaks once, or twice, yet no one notices it. In a dream, a vision of the night, when sound sleep falls on men, while they slumber in their beds…” (Job 33:14-15). Then through poetic Hebrew parallelism he gives three purposes of God for dreams:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>Revelation/Instruction:</em> “<em>Then He opens the ears of men and seals their instruction&#8221;</em> (v. 16). To “open” is a word of revelation, disclosure, discovery, as to prophets (Amos 3:7; 1 Sam 3:7, 21; 9:15). It is also used of visions and trances (Num 24:4, 16). God gives instruction through dreams and visions, and seals it, meaning that it is authenticated. God sometimes does this through repeated dreams or visions (v. 14).</li>
<li><em>Correction/Humbling: “That He may turn man aside from his conduct and keep man from pride”</em> ( (v 17). Dreams and visions can lead to repentance as when Isaiah cried out, “I am a man of unclean lips!”</li>
<li><em>Warning of Spiritual, Emotional, or Physical Danger:</em> <em>“He keeps back his soul from the pit and his life from passing over into Sheol” </em>(v 18). Joseph was warned through a dream to go to Egypt to avoid Jesus being killed by Herod (Matt 2:13).</li>
</ul>
<p><em>Additional Purposes of God</em></p>
<ul>
<li><em>Understanding the thoughts of our mind.</em> God may use dreams as an allegory of life to reflect our souls—to reveal inner thoughts, feelings, distress, etc. Daniel told Nebuchadnezzar that God revealed to Daniel the mystery his dreams “for the purpose of making the interpretation known to the king, and that you may understand the thoughts of your mind” (Dan 2:30).</li>
<li><em>Stirring faith in Christ.</em> Saul’s vision and hearing the voice of Jesus on the Damascus road brought him to faith in Christ, Many Muslims are coming to faith in Christ from visions and dreams.</li>
<li><em>Giving </em><em>ministry insight and direction. </em>Ananias was given a vision instructing him to go and minister to Saul. God sometimes gives ministry assignments through visions and dreams.</li>
<li><em>As catalysts for healing</em>. Ananias was given further instructions to minister to the newly converted Saul who had “seen in a vision a man named Ananias come in and lay his hands on him, so that he might regain his sight” (Acts 9:12). God gave to both Ananias and Saul visions about healing.</li>
<li><em>Encouragement and confirmation.</em> Gideon had received a word from the Lord internally but had some hesitation. So the Lord gave him further confirmation through a dream and interpretation that others had received (Judges 7:12-15).</li>
</ul>
<p>Dreams, then, can be tools of discernment for insight, revelation, and understanding from God; and for instruction, guidance, and encouragement much the same as the gift of prophecy. The Holy Spirit can use dreams to humble us, convict us of sin. and lead us to repentance and course change in our life.</p>
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<p><strong>Discerning Other Sources of Dreams and Visions</strong></p>
<p><em>From Self</em></p>
<p><div class="simplePullQuote"><p><strong><em>It is clear from Scripture that God does speak through dreams, It is also clear from Scripture that not all dreams are from God.</em></strong></p>
</div>Many dreams and internal visions come from our own minds, inner psyche, imagination. They are neither from God nor from demonic sources. They may be random thoughts or related to things that we have done or seen or heard that day. Even external visions can occur as hallucinations, especially if someone has been sick or without nourishment.</p>
<p><em>Meaningless dreams and visions from self</em>. Sometimes I like to call some of these “pizza dreams”—from whatever we ate that night. Scripture indicates that some dreams have no interpretation. Some fly away (Job 20:8) or are swept away (Ps 73:19-20) and cannot be found or recalled. Thus there is no indication that they are from God or that God wants someone to learn something from them. Further, “in many dreams and in many words there is emptiness [or vanity]” (Eccl 5:7).</p>
<p><em>Meaningful dreams and visions from self.</em> Not all dreams and visions from self are meaningless. Dreams may reveal a person’s inner psyche. This is the common psychological approach and is often speculative, subjective, and very secular—like the dream interpretation theories of Freud and Jung. Although elements of truth may be found in their theories that correspond to Scripture, most elements of their theories are unbiblical and unreliable. (I speak not as a psychologist, but as a theologian and pastor with psychology and counseling training who believes in Christian approaches to the field).</p>
<p>Scripture does show us that dreams can reveal unfulfilled desires. God exposes what we hunger and thirst after (Isa 29:8). God makes clear that some dreams or visions are unsatisfying, leaving a person discontented or disappointed: “… like a dream, a vision of the night. It will be as when a hungry man dreams—and behold, he is eating; But when he awakens, his hunger is not satisfied, or as when a thirsty man dreams—and behold, he is drinking, but when he awakens, behold, he is faint and his thirst is not quenched” (<a href="https://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/isaiah/29.html">Isa 29:7-8</a>).</p>
<p>Such dreams that leave the soul empty and unfulfilled are from self, not from God, and God does not suggest any possible interpretation or meaning to be found in Him. Although they are not dreams from God and may be due to inner conflicts such as stress or anxiety, God may use such dreams to expose a person’s inner self—and reveal that the person needs to find their fulfillment in God.</p>
<p><em>Dreams and visions from one’s own imagination.</em> God also exposes visions and dreams that are neither from God nor from Satan, but from one’s own self or imagination: “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you. They are leading you into futility; they speak a vision of their own imagination, not from the mouth of the Lord” (Jer 23:16).</p>
<p><em>Dreams from the deceptions of the heart.</em> Because the unredeemed or unsanctified heart is deceitfully wicked, God says that some dreams and visions come from the deceitfulness of the heart: “I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy falsely in My name, saying, ‘I had a dream, I had a dream!’ How long? Is there anything in the hearts of the prophets who prophesy falsehood, even these prophets of the deception of their own heart” (Jer 23:25-26). Such false dreams lead people astray, lead to reckless boasting, and do edify (Jer 23:32).</p>
<p><em>Filthy polluting dreams and visions.</em> Jude writes of filthy dreamers [or polluting dreams] that defile the flesh: “these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and revile angelic majesties” (Jude 8). Some translations render it “filthy dreamers.” Commentators note that Jude is referring to the false prophets of Jeremiah 23 and the deceitful dreams and visions of their heart.</p>
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<p><em>From Satan or Demonic Sources</em></p>
<p>Some people have claimed that all dreams are from God. To do so, one must ignore, deny, and wrench Scripture out of its context. The <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3jl6lTB">IVP Bible Background Commentary</a></em> affirms from the biblical context, “Dreams were one of the standard means for receiving messages from a god in the ancient Near East.” It was clearly understood in biblical days that some dreams were supernatural communication from alternatives sources to Yahweh, which were evil spirits. Therefore, the context to the Israelites was clear: Prophetic dreams as supernatural signs and wonders from Yahweh did indeed occur, but such dreams could occur in other religions as well, and even those dreams could well come true. However, their fulfilment did not mean they were from Yahweh, so stay away from them.</p>
<p>Scripture shows that angels sometimes appear in visions and dreams. Most of these mentioned in Scripture are angels from God, but Paul also warns: “though we, or an angel from heaven preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached, let him be accursed” (Gal 1:8). And again, “Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Cor 11:14). If an angel can appear in a dream or vision (as Scripture affirms), and if an angel can preach a false gospel (as Scripture warns), and if Satan does indeed disguise himself as an angel of light (which Scripture assures) then an angel in a dream or vision can preach a false gospel or be a satanic angel of light. Just because you see a bright angel in your dream or vision, it does not automatically mean it is from God.</p>
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<p>We read above that in Jeremiah 23 some dreams come not from God but from one’s imagination. However, the case is different a few chapters later in Jeremiah 27, in which God warns even more strongly, “Do not listen to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers … who prophesy a lie to you” (Jer 27:9). Dreamers and prophets are here lumped together with diviners, sorcerers, and enchanters. While it is possible that some of these may have feigned some supernatural encounters, each of these had real demonic occult roots in the supernatural. Therefore, such dreamers and prophets are supernaturally prophesying against Yahweh’s counsel from the same occultic sources. The inference, then, is that the source of the prophecies and revelations of the dreamer and prophets are occultic.</p>
<p>Zechariah gives another example of false supernatural dreams and visions: “For the demons have spoken vanity and the diviners have seen a lying vision and have spoken a revelatory word of false dreams” (Zech 10:2).<a href="#_edn1" name="_ednref1">[i]</a> Such demonically-inspired dreams and visions seduce people to go after other gods and not follow Yahweh (Deut 13:1-5) and lead people astray into the occult (Jer 27:9-10). God takes dreams, visions, and prophecies seriously. He warns not to mess around with them, not to speak from our own imagination or expose ourselves to demonic dreams.</p>
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<p><em>Other Yellow and Red Light Danger Alerts</em></p>
<p>Even though God sometimes uses dreams, visions, and voices as tools of discernment, we need to exercise discernment of the tools of discernment as well. Some of the danger signals that could indicate a Yellow Light or Red Light,<a href="#_edn2" name="_ednref2">[ii]</a> include the following:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>Pride. </em>God’s answer to Paul was “No,” not because he had sinned, not because he lacked faith, not because there was some curse on his life, but as a preventative measure—to keep Paul from pride in his visions and revelations. Madame Guyon, who experienced many supernatural revelations from God, also warned that Satan uses visions and dreams to convey vanity and self-love. She encourages us to die to self in order to insure safe visions and ecstasies.</li>
<li><em>False guidance. </em>Accepting such guidance without discernment provides a doorway for false supernatural encounters.</li>
<li><em>Passivity. </em>This will be discussed in Chapter 26, “Dangers of Passivity.”</li>
<li><em>Seeking experiences or manifestations rather than God Himself. </em>If you desire an experience so strongly that you are seeking after it rather than God Himself, the dark powers would love to provide you with a counterfeit manifestation that looks like the real thing. Visionaries such as Madame Guyon, Hildegard, and Teresa of Avila all emphasized making Christ central.</li>
<li><em>Lucid dreaming that involves manipulating your dream or vision.</em> Dutch psychiatrist Frederik van Eeden (1860–1932) coined the term “lucid dreaming” to describe the state of being asleep as well as being self-aware and “in control” of your dreams. Lucid dreaming is not of God when it goes beyond interacting within a dream to controlling the dream. This would be more akin to occult means and hypnosis, not an interactive dream from God.</li>
<li><em>Danger of Accepting All Dream Thoughts Uncritically. </em>Dreams are thoughts in our sleep. Can demons place a thought in our mind when we are awake? Of course. Then they can place a thought in our mind when we are asleep. The mind can be affected, influenced, distorted, controlled, deceived, or demonized (Mark 5:15; Luke 8:35); blinded (2 Cor 3:14; 4:4); and corrupted (2 Cor 11:3) by demonic powers—if when awake, certainly when asleep. Paul exhorts: “We are destroying speculations (“casting down imaginations”—KJV) and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ” (2 Cor 10:4-5). This involves spiritual warfare against those thoughts, imaginations or speculations (including those in sleep) that rise up against true knowledge of God. We are to bring “<strong><em>every</em></strong> thought captive to obedience of Christ”—not just thoughts in wakening hours, but <strong><em>all</em></strong> thoughts, including those in the sleeping hours.</li>
<li><em>Cautions in Fasting.</em> Fasting led by the Spirit is biblical, but not all fasting is Spirit-led (Isa 58:3-5; Matt 6:16-17). Fasting in the flesh or prolonged excessive fasting and prayer combined with sleep deprivation, and/or asceticism can actually cause false manifestations—false visions, dreams, or voices. May Mabette Anderson cautioned that “a weakened body often gives the adversary easy access to the spirit.” A.B. Simpson expressed concern: “Good people who shut themselves up in cells and closets in weeks of fasting and prayer without proper exercise, nourishment or sleep, or without any change of mental or spiritual attention, are very apt to see visions and dream dreams that do not always come from above.</li>
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<p><strong>Discerning True and False in Dream Interpretation</strong></p>
<p>We have seen from biblical examples that dream interpretation can be valid. However, we can also glean principles from Scripture about what is appropriate and what is not appropriate dream interpretation.</p>
<p><em>Danger of Jungian Dream Interpretation </em></p>
<p>While we recognize valid insights from psychological theory in harmony with Scripture, including some from Carl Jung, we must be very careful and eclectic in our acceptance of such theories. Great discernment is needed and they must be sifted through Scripture. Jung himself was influenced and fascinated by supernatural occult phenomena, thus opening up a person for psychic or demonic deception. Paul advises us, “But a natural [<em>psyche</em>—psychic, soulish] man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised” (1 Cor 2:14).</p>
<p><em>Danger of Over-Spiritualizing </em></p>
<p>Don’t strain to get the meaning or attempt to find too much meaning in dreams and visions. As with Jesus’ parables, dreams and visions usually have one main theme, not necessarily spiritual significance with every detail. Paul warned not to go beyond what is written. When we over-allegorize or over-mystify, we are going beyond what is written (1 Cor 4:6). The mystical is only given to us by God for direction, awareness, and growth spiritually, not for relishing in the mysterious.</p>
<p><em>Discerning Dream Interpretation</em></p>
<ul>
<li><em>Dream interpretation must be led by the Spirit of God, not the soul of man.</em> Even a lot of so-called “Christian” dream interpretation is subjective and speculative, not divinely-inspired. Joseph makes clear that he interprets not by his own ability or thoughts, but interpretation of dreams belongs to God (Gen 40:8, 16, 22; 41:12-16). The same term is used of Daniel’s interpretation of dreams (Dan 5:7, 8, 26) and was attributed, not to human or psychic ability but to the fact that “in whom is the spirit of the holy gods” (Dan 5:11, 12, 14).</li>
<li><em>Record your dreams and visions</em>. God told Habakkuk, “Record the vision, and inscribe it on tablets, that the one who reads it may run. For the vision is yet for the appointed time &#8230;” (Hab 2:2). Keep a notepad or recorder handy, especially by your bed at night.</li>
<li><em>Rather than seeking a dream interpretation book, seek the Lord and His Word for the interpretation. </em>Many books on dream interpretation go far beyond Scripture. A good book on hermeneutics or biblical interpretation provides a sound guide.</li>
<li><em>Pray for an interpretation.</em> Sometimes you will not understand the meaning of the dream or vision you or another person has received. As you pray, the Holy Spirit may give you a word of knowledge or wisdom, a prophetic word, or tongues and interpretation to provide supernatural insight.</li>
<li><em>Take time to reflect on the meaning and receive confirmation</em>. Peter was reflecting on the meaning of the vision he had in a trance, and the Lord gave him the meaning and confirmation through a knock on the door (Acts 10:19). Joseph’s dream confirmed that Mary was indeed pregnant by the Holy Spirit and that he should take Mary as his wife.</li>
<li><em>Understand that different symbols can signify the same thing</em> (e.g., Gen 41:25—cows and stalks of grain).</li>
<li><em>Understand that symbols can sometimes have opposite meanings</em> <em>depending upon the context</em>. For example, a lion can be a divine or godly symbol (Jesus is called the Lion of Judah and the righteous are as bold as a lion) or a demonic symbol (Satan roars like a lion).</li>
<li><em>Inanimate objects may be animated in dreams or visions</em>. For example, in Joseph’s dreams, the sheaves of wheat, the sun, moon and stars bowed down.</li>
<li><em>The interpretation may come later</em>. Sometimes you may not know what it means or whom it is for at the time. Later, God reveals to you the meaning and the person to whom it applies as in the vision.</li>
<li><em>Repeated dreams or visions have significant meaning</em><em>. </em>Hildegarde of Bingen had visions with clarity from God, but dreams were another story. She had terrifying dreams and was not sure what to make of them. She waited until they persisted, then she went to her spiritual director for counsel. She models for us to wait and see if the dreams repeat themselves, then go to a spiritual director for further insight and direction.</li>
<li><em>Similar themes repeated in dreams or vision have special significance.</em> Sometimes God repeats a dream or vision for emphasis to:
<ul>
<li>give greater assurance or certainty, especially when the dream is hard to believe, as with Joseph’s two dreams with the same theme.</li>
<li>certify the determination and soon action of God, as Joseph explained regarding Pharaoh’s dreams.</li>
<li>affirm that God has confirmed it, determined it, and will bring it about (Gen 41:25, 32).</li>
<li>confirm or establish by two or three witnesses. Sometimes we will receive more than one dream, vision, or mental image, or more than one person will receive similar, but related, insights. These multiple images will confirm their reality and reinforce their importance to the one who is receiving prayer.</li>
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<p><strong>PR</strong></p>
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<blockquote><p>Excerpted and adapted from the forthcoming second volume of <em>Is It of God? Applying Principles of Discernment</em>, by Dr. Paul L. King. Used by permission.</p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Read “<a href="http://pneumareview.com/basic-biblical-principles-of-discernment/">Basic Biblical Principles of Discernment</a>,” an excerpt from Paul L. King, <em><a href="https://amzn.to/2FHyUJN">Is It Of God? A Biblical Guidebook For Spiritual Discernment</a> </em>Volume 1 (Newberry, FL: Bridge-Logos, 2019).</p>
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<p><strong>Notes</strong></p>
<p><a href="#_ednref1" name="_edn1">[i]</a> This is my expanded literal translation from Hebrew. The NASB reads: “For the idols have spoken vanity and the diviners have seen [<em>chazah</em>a vision, revelation, prophecy] a lie and have told [<em>dabar</em>—used of a revelatory word] false dreams.”</p>
<p><a href="#_ednref2" name="_edn2">[ii]</a> Editor’s note: For more about Paul King’s helpful categories of Green Light, Yellow Light, and Red Light, see “<a href="http://pneumareview.com/basic-biblical-principles-of-discernment/">Basic Biblical Principles of Discernment</a>,” which is an excerpt from his book <em><a href="https://amzn.to/2FHyUJN">Is It Of God? A Biblical Guidebook For Spiritual Discernment</a> </em>Volume 1 (Newberry, FL: Bridge-Logos, 2019).</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[William L. De Arteaga, On Discerning Trump’s Character and Presidency: A Theological Reflection on How False Prophecy Influenced American Politics (Amazon KDP, 2020), 88 pages, ISBN 9798668487622. For Christians who believe in the continuing gifts of the Spirit, testing national prophecies is a tricky task. In every election cycle, there are prophets announcing who the [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://amzn.to/2PcQvh5"><img class="alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/WDeArteaga-DiscerningTrump.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="288" /></a><strong>William L. De Arteaga, <em><a href="https://amzn.to/2PcQvh5">On Discerning Trump’s Character and Presidency: A Theological Reflection on How False Prophecy Influenced American Politics</a> </em>(Amazon KDP, 2020), 88 pages, ISBN 9798668487622.</strong></p>
<p>For Christians who believe in the continuing gifts of the Spirit, testing national prophecies is a tricky task. In every election cycle, there are prophets announcing who the Lord’s pick is, and which candidate will win. In 2012, for instance, the prophetic consensus was that Mitt Romney was the Lord’s choice and that he would win. They were wrong.</p>
<p>In the 2016 election, Trump emerged as the prophets’ pick. As early as 2007, Kim Clement had delivered a prophecy that God would “raise up the Trump to become a trumpet.”<a href="#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">[1]</a> In 2011, ex-fireman Mark Taylor received a series of visions and locutions stating that Trump would become president and was chosen by God to bring America back to righteousness and its true Christian calling.<a href="#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">[2]</a> In July 2015, <em>Charisma </em>magazine published a prophecy by Jeremiah Johnson that God was raising up Trump to be a Cyrus figure in the 2016 election, and that Trump would be like “a bull in a china closet”<a href="#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3">[3]</a> (Cyrus was a pagan king who was anointed by God to return the Jews to their homeland). In fall 2015, businessman Lance Wallnau prophesied that Trump was God’s “chaos candidate” and would be a “wrecking ball to political correctness.”<a href="#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4">[4]</a> Numerous other, lesser-known prophetic people also reported dreams and visions showing that the Lord had a special purpose in Trump becoming president.</p>
<p>These prophecies played a large role in gathering charismatic support behind Trump and eventually securing his victory.  Looking back, did these prophets truly hear from the Lord? Or did soulish “wish for” prophecies lead to an outcome that was not, in fact, what the Lord had intended?</p>
<p>As we head into the 2020 election, how should believers weigh the Trump prophecies? Should we take them at face value and conclude that Trump is the Lord’s anointed, and so vote for him, because to do otherwise would be to oppose the Lord? Or should we view them skeptically and vote on other criteria, such as the candidates’ character and position on relevant issues?</p>
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<p><strong>A Discerning Voice</strong></p>
<p>In his new book, <em><a href="https://amzn.to/39NCWhF">On Discerning Trump’s Character and Presidency:  A Theological Reflection on How False Prophecy Influenced American Politics</a></em>, historian William De Arteaga offers insight on these questions. For those familiar with De Arteaga’s excellent book <em>Quenching the Spirit</em>, it comes as no surprise that De Arteaga brings his considerable grasp of history and discernment literature, as well as his penetrating insight, to this work.</p>
<p>The first three-quarters of the book are actually not about discerning the prophecies themselves, but about discerning Trump’s character and his presidency. De Arteaga also traces what he sees as the decline of culture and of the Republican Party that made Trump’s presidency possible. While this may seem like a detour, it lays important groundwork for De Arteaga’s ultimate argument that the prophecies were wholly or in part false.</p>
<p>De Arteaga begins with an assessment of Trump’s character. Like others before him, he blasts Trump’s habitual reviling of opponents, his “aggressive speech and uncharitable tweets and off the cuff remarks” (14), and how these behaviors have contributed to the decline of civility and reasoned discourse in American politics. He questions how a man who frequently lies can be trusted. De Arteaga expresses disappointment that Christians would excuse and even embrace Trump’s immoral behavior and links this attitude to antinomianism – the heresy that conduct does not matter so long as one confesses Jesus as Lord. The analysis in this section is erudite and well-reasoned, but not especially novel if you’ve followed other criticisms of Trump in <em>National Review</em>, <em>First Things</em>, etc.</p>
<p>De Arteaga then traces the events that led to American Christians’ increasing sense of persecution by mainstream culture and secular authority to the point that many viewed 2016 (to borrow Michael Anton’s arresting metaphor) as the “Flight 93 Election.” The increasing secularization of education and popular culture, Supreme Court decisions and liberal legislation chipping away at traditional understandings of the family and sexuality, and the eradication of Christian values in schools led to a situation in which many American Christians felt they needed to turn the tide at any cost.</p>
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<p><strong>Prophecy</strong></p>
<p>The most interesting part of the book is where De Arteaga specifically looks at the Trump prophecies and compares them with instances of false prophecy by sincere Christians in the past.</p>
<p>De Arteaga insightfully points out that evangelicals and charismatics tend to be largely ahistorical:</p>
<blockquote><p>Many charismatic and non-denominational churches are a-historical: they have little or no understanding of Church history. They usually pay much attention to Scripture, but assume that, for instance, the “Catholic” period of the Church is so full of error it is not worth learning about. The Patristic period of the Church Fathers, and their wonderful discernment writing might as well have been written for another planet and race of beings. (83)</p></blockquote>
<p>This ahistorical approach to Christianity has serious consequences. As is often said, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. False prophecy is not a new phenomenon. As early as 170 AD, the prophet Montanus prophesied the imminent return of Christ and led many believers astray. While the Catholic Church has dealt with its share of false prophecies, the regular stream of monks, nuns, and laypeople receiving visions and personal revelations led to the development of a rich literature of discernment. Spiritual directors arose to mentor prophetic people and help them discern which revelations came from the Lord, their flesh, or the devil.</p>
<p><div class="simplePullQuote"><p><em><strong>The most interesting part of the book is where De Arteaga specifically looks at the Trump prophecies and compares them with instances of false prophecy by sincere Christians in the past.</strong></em></p>
</div>The Protestant Reformers largely rejected the supernatural and the rich Catholic discernment tradition with it. As a result, when charismatic movements did occur and prophecies emerged, most communities lacked the tools and experience to evaluate prophetic utterances. False prophecies were a constant problem for charismatics, and several revivals, including the Great Awakening (1737-1742) were prematurely ended because of irresponsible prophecies.</p>
<p>De Arteaga discusses the very interesting example of David Wilkerson’s false prophecy, <em>The Vision</em>. De Arteaga does not doubt that Wilkerson was a very anointed minister who bore great fruit for the Kingdom; however, his apocalyptic predictions for 1973-1983 largely proved false. They were based upon “the fears, prejudices, and belief structures of his own subconscious mind and those in his immediate faith community” (76).</p>
<p>De Arteaga makes a strong case that many of the Trump prophecies fit the same pattern. Many of Mark Taylor’s prophecies, for instance, demonize Democratic leaders and unambiguously paint them as evil. They cater to right-wing fears, such as Obama’s intent to strip the people of their guns or run for a third term in violation of the Constitution. And some have proven false with time – for example, the prophecy that Obama would be forcibly stripped of his office instead of leaving gracefully with dignity. De Arteaga’s analysis of the Taylor prophecies is fascinating, and I wish that he had devoted more attention to the other prophets that foretold Trump’s presidency.</p>
<p>In the end, De Arteaga comes to a very nuanced conclusion. He neither says that all of the Trump prophecies were categorically false, nor does he say that they were all true. Rather, he concludes that they <em>may</em> have contained true revelation from the Lord, which got diluted with soulish concerns and wishes. The kernel of truth may have been what led charismatic leaders to embrace the prophecies, and Trump. Nonetheless, De Arteaga chastises charismatic leaders for what has been, for the most part, uncritical support of the President. Even if Trump <em>is</em> anointed by God for a special purpose, the Bible gives precedent for prophets speaking truth to anointed kings. For instance, David was the Lord’s anointed, and yet the prophet Nathan confronted his sin. De Arteaga urges prophetic leaders to fulfill this aspect of their function.</p>
<p>On the other hand, De Arteaga also raises the possibility that perhaps <em>all</em> of the Trump prophecies were false, even demonically inspired, and that following them has led to grave damage in the Body of Christ and to our nation. Many will disagree, but it is a sobering possibility to consider. Whatever you think of President Trump and the Trump prophecies, De Arteaga’s book is a worthwhile and thought-provoking treatment of an important subject.</p>
<p><em>Reviewed by Esther Tsai</em></p>
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<p><strong>Notes</strong></p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1">[1]</a> <a href="https://www.charismamag.com/video/40242-2007-kim-clement-prophecy-says-president-will-be-baptized-in-holy-spirit-build-the-wall-win-second-term">https://www.charismamag.com/video/40242-2007-kim-clement-prophecy-says-president-will-be-baptized-in-holy-spirit-build-the-wall-win-second-term</a>.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2">[2]</a> Mark Taylor and Mary Colbert, <em>The Trump Prophecies</em> (Defender Publishing, 2017).</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3">[3]</a> Jeremiah Johnson, “Prophecy: Donald Trump Shall Become the Trumpet,” <em>Prophetic Insight</em>, (July 28, 2015),  <a href="https://charismamail.com/ga/webviews/4-864964-30-224-231-371-9d7ae3cdab">https://charismamail.com/ga/webviews/4-864964-30-224-231-371-9d7ae3cdab</a>.</p>
<p><a href="#_ftnref4" name="_ftn4">[4]</a> Dr. Lance Wallnau, <em>God’s Chaos Candidate: Donald J. Trump and the American Unraveling</em> (Killer Sheep Media, Inc., 2016), 7.</p>
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		<title>Leadership in the Local Church: Discerning Practical Value and Developing Theological Foundations</title>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>How should we lead the church?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">In this <em>Pneuma Review</em> conversation, Pastor-scholar Tony Richie discusses what having good leadership means for a local church</p>
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<p><strong>Introduction</strong></p>
<p>“We’re a good church, but we need a good leader!” The preceding sentence expressed the sentiment of the good people of the John Sevier Church of God in Knoxville, Tennessee, during our interview for the pastorate (December 1997). These words also resonated with my own experience a few years prior when had I entered the Doctor of Ministry program at Asbury Theological Seminary. My Bachelor of Arts degree had been in Philosophy-Religion, with a minor in Biblical Languages, and I had earned a Master of Divinity degree from the premier seminary of my denomination. As I surveyed the various emphases offered by Asbury, I realized that my training in theology, language, hermeneutics, homiletics, and counseling had not practically prepared me specifically for the role of pastoral leadership; nevertheless, as a pastor I was consistently called upon to function not only as a preacher or a counselor but as the leader of my congregation. Accordingly, contrary to my previous approach to education and yet with a deep sense of divine direction, I chose the leadership track for my studies at Asbury.</p>
<div style="width: 323px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SPS2014-TRichie-600x450.jpg" alt="" width="313" height="235" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Tony Richie chairing a panel discussing ecumenism at the <a href="http://pneumareview.com/highlights-sps-2014/">2014 convention of the Society for Pentecostal Studies</a>.</p></div>
<p>My experiences at John Sevier and Asbury have been echoed in my overall pastoral experience. I have been in the ministry for nearly thirty years, more than twenty-seven of which have been spent serving as a pastor. I have enjoyed relatively successful ministry in each pastorate, yet I have not infrequently felt an absence of confidence concerning my leadership duties and abilities. Slowly, I have come to suspect that the missing sense of certainty may be due, at least in part, to a failure to understand and apply a specific, sound theology of leadership for the pastoral setting, especially in my own ministry context as a Pentecostal Christian and churchman.<sup>1</sup></p>
<p><div class="simplePullQuote"><p><strong><em>Looking at the theological foundations for an energetic theology of pastoral leadership ministry.</em></strong></p>
</div>Therefore, the subsequent discussion will look first at understanding the practical value of leadership for effective pastoral ministry in the local church. Then, it will look at the theological foundations for an energetic theology of pastoral leadership ministry. Throughout, although drawing on an array of resources and assuming a variety of relevant applications, the emphasis is on a distinctly Pentecostal approach to pastoral leadership in the local church setting.</p>
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<p><strong>Discerning Practical Value</strong></p>
<p>The almost incomparable worth of morally and practically competent leadership and the tragedy of evil or inept leadership is a consistent and recurring theme in Scripture. Further, an important element of the leadership challenge includes carefully defining leadership in local church settings.</p>
<p><em>Incomparable Worth of Competent Leadership</em></p>
<p>Throughout the biblical record the issue of leadership is noticeably prominent. Very early on the problem of corrupt leadership is latent. Hartley notes that Nimrod was the first empire builder.<sup>2</sup> An enigma to scholars, he appears to have been regarded in almost godlike terms.<sup>3</sup> He was apparently a powerful leader. Nimrod’s rule was centered in the region of Shinar (Gen. 10:8-12). The account of the height of human arrogance and divine displeasure over the tower of Babel is set in Shinar, later known as Babylon (11:1-9). That this “famous city symbolizes commerce, human achievement, and the pursuit of pleasure” appears clear.<sup>4</sup> The attitude of heaven toward haughty human leadership is underscored in the divine dispersion and division of the human race. Throughout the Scriptures Babylon is often encoded as the enemy of God and of God’s people (e.g., Rev. 17-18).</p>
<p>In complete contrast to the pride and pomp of Nimrod and Babylon stands the piety of the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph. A comparison of the patriarchal narrative of Scripture with ancient historical evidence strongly suggests the patriarchs lived in a dimorphic society consisting of pastoral nomads and village dwellers, probably early in the second millennium BC. The family units of the patriarchs were basically “autonomous tribal chiefdoms”.<sup>5</sup> In the culture of the ancient Near East, “the patriarchs themselves were chiefs of seminomadic clans”.<sup>6</sup> The patriarchs exercised definite leadership influence within the realm of their usually somewhat large family unit and its accompanying assortment of servants, friends, visitors, and, to some extent, neighboring peoples. For instance, Joseph’s timely leadership position and ability is of key import to Israel’s physical and national survival and divine destiny as the people of the Abrahamic covenant (Gen. 37, 39-50).</p>
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<p><img class="alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/AYong-DiscerningTheSpirits.jpg" /><strong>Amos Yong, <em>Discerning the Spirit(s): A Pentecostal-Charismatic Contribution to Christian Theology of Religions, </em>Journal of Pentecostal Theology Supplement Series 20 (Sheffield, England: Sheffield Academic Press, 2000), 392 pages. </strong></p>
<p>Amos Yong is a leading Pentecostal/charismatic theologian. This book helps explain why. There are a number of reasons why I think pastors, church leaders, missionaries, teachers, and students should read it. First, it skillfully grapples with one of the most important issues of our day: a theology regarding rival religions. Do you not agree that post 9/11 Christianity has a responsibility to address the issue of religions as a contemporary priority? Second, the missiological and evangelistic impulse and experience of a burgeoning and blossoming Pentecostalism demands sound biblical and theological underpinnings in order to increase depth and effectiveness. Third, globalization and modernization of contemporary society, making the world our neighbor, confronts Christianity with an unprecedented opportunity to apply the Golden Rule of Christ (Matt 7:12), an application that cannot occur without understanding ourselves in relation to religious others.</p>
<p>Dr. Yong, the son of first generation converts from Buddhism to Pentecostal Christianity, has perhaps been providentially prepared to help Pentecostalism develop a viable theology of religions. His work in an undeniably difficult area, a virtual theological minefield, is instructive and inspiring. A creative combination of testimony, history, philosophy, and theology, <em>Discerning the Spirit(s) </em>is at times challenging and stretching reading but always rewarding and worthwhile. Personal narratives show that theology of religions is not an abstract intellectual exercise for Amos Yong, but a burning personal passion. That spiritual passion is communicated through this writing and can be contagious to the reader!</p>
<p>Yong work wrestles with issues raised by implications for Pentecostal theology by the “primal spirituality” thesis of Harvard theologian Harvey Cox in <em>Fire From Heaven: The Rise of Pentecostal Spirituality and the Reshaping of Religion in the Twenty-First Century </em>(NY: Addison-Wesley, 1995). Yong approaches theology of religions pneumatologically without trying to “untangle the christological debates” (p. 25). He suggests that the generally negative rhetoric of Pentecostals against other religions belies an underlying attitude of openness. Yong’s own adventurous attitude shows when this work is said to set forth a “pneumatology of quest” (p. 32). He sketches the history of Christian theological reflection on non-Christian religions in light of the reality of contemporary religious pluralism, calling attention to tensions between competing truth claims in the context of universality and particularity issues raised regarding Jesus Christ. He suggests pneumatological approaches to theology of religions have an advantage in perceiving the Holy Spirit as cosmic divine presence, but argues that the problem of discernment becomes paramount. He then advances his idea of “pneumatological imagination,” or a Pentecostal/charismatic experience of and orientation toward the Holy Spirit. Yong describes the Pentecostal/charismatic movement and its historical responses to religions, and argues why Pentecostals need and should desire a theology of religions. He revises Cox’s primal spirituality categories to lift up religious experience, utility, and cosmology. A dialogical case study between Pentecostalism and Brazilian Umbanda religion is a bold application of Yong’s pneumatological approach. Finally, he expounds some important supportive theses for Pentecostal/charismatic theology of religions, sets forth some provisional theological implications arising from this study, and offers recommendations for further research. Throughout, Yong relies on a wide ranging grasp of a massive amount of relevant material as well as his own Christian experience of the Spirit and respect for the teachings and traditions of the Pentecostal/charismatic community of faith.</p>
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