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		<title>Fall 2023: Other Significant Articles</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roger E. Olson, “Hegel In a Nutshell” Patheos (September 6, 2023). Historian of religion, Roger Olson, offers a brief introduction to the influential philosophy of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831) in 7 bullet points: Hegel’s epistemology, Hegel’s ontology/metaphysics, Hegel’s religion, Hegel’s history, Hegel’s reason, Hegel’s influence on Christian theology, and Christian reactions to Hegel. &#160; [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Roger E. Olson, “<a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2023/09/hegel-in-a-nutshell">Hegel In a Nutshell</a>” Patheos (September 6, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Historian of religion, Roger Olson, offers a brief introduction to the influential philosophy of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831) in 7 bullet points: Hegel’s epistemology, Hegel’s ontology/metaphysics, Hegel’s religion, Hegel’s history, Hegel’s reason, Hegel’s influence on Christian theology, and Christian reactions to Hegel.</p>
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<p><strong>Revisiting the call to being a peacemaker in social media</strong>: Douglas S. Bursch, “<a href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/better-samaritan/2022/january/three-practical-ways-to-engage-in-online-peacemaking.html">Three Practical Ways to Engage in Online Peacemaking: How reflecting the servant attitude of Christ in our online engagement makes us effective ambassadors</a>” The Better Samaritan (January 24, 2022).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">PneumaReview.com author <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/douglassbursch/">Douglas Bursch</a> offers practical advice for engaging in social media in a Christ-like way.</p>
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<div style="width: 150px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/AimeeSempleMcPherson-publicdomain-USLibraryCongress.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="206" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Aimee Semple McPherson</p></div>
<p>Roger E. Olson, “<a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2023/09/the-almost-forgotten-story-of-non-liberal-feminist-christian-women-influences">The Almost Forgotten Story of Non-Liberal Feminist Christian Women Influences</a>” Patheos (September 20, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Historian of religion, Roger Olson mentions some of the most influential theologically conservative Christian women that have often been ignored by those writing about medieval mystics or modern feminist theologians.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Further Reading: “<a href="http://pneumareview.com/pioneer-women-of-pentecostal-revivals/">Pioneer Women of Pentecostal Revivals</a>” Leah Payne speaks with PneumaReview.com about her book, <em>Gender and Pentecostal Revivalism</em>.</p>
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<p>“<a href="https://www.georgetown.edu/news/tips-to-slow-misinformation-this-election-season">A Misinformation Expert’s Top Tips to Slow the Spread of Misleading Information in the 2024 Election</a>” Georgetown University (August 31, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The subtitle of this article is “Ask a Professor: Leticia Bode on Misinformation, Technology and the 2024 Election.” “If you accidentally shared something that wasn’t true, how would you want someone to approach you? You probably want whoever is correcting you to be kind, understanding and empathetic. You’d want them to say, ‘I understand this is complicated. I was confused by it too. Here are some sources that I found that seem to say the opposite of what you’re saying. I’m happy to have a conversation with you about it.’” Thanks to PneumaReview.com author <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/michellevondey/">Michelle Vondey</a> for suggesting this article.</p>
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<p>Roger E. Olson, “<a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2023/09/belong-believe-behave/">Belong, Believe, Behave?</a>” Patheos (September 15, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Historian of religion, Roger Olson, shares his insights and observations of the so-called emerging church movement of the late 1990s and early 2000s.</p>
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<p>Andrew K. Gabriel, “<a href="https://www.andrewkgabriel.com/2023/10/02/god-dreams">When God Speaks Through Dreams…</a>” AndrewKGabriel.com (October 2, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Pentecostal/charismatic theologian and educator, Andrew Gabriel talks about how to recognize if dreams have come from God, what the Bible has to say about contemporary dreams from God, and what to do with them.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Daniel Silliman, “<a href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/october/loren-cunningham-ywam-death-youth-with-mission.html">Died: Loren Cunningham, Who Launched Millions on Short-Term Missions: YWAM founder saw “waves” of young people carrying the gospel to every nation</a>” Christianity Today (October 9, 2023).</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Margaret Ringgit, “<a href="https://www.newsarawaktribune.com.my/thousands-to-mark-50th-anniversary-of-spiritual-revival/">Thousands to mark 50th anniversary of spiritual revival</a>” New Sarawak Tribune (October 2, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Celebrating 50 years of God’s work in Malaysia through the Bario Revival, the Ba’kelalan Revival, and the Taginambur Revival. PneumaReview.com contributing editor <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/john/">John Lathrop</a> writes: “Two men who used to attend the church I pastored are speakers at this event.” See the article by Soh Pooi Siang, “<a href="http://pneumareview.com/mount-murud-prayer-gathering-2019/">Mount Murud Prayer Gathering 2019</a>.”</p>
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<p>Eddie L. Hyatt, “<a href="https://www.charismanews.com/culture/93573-do-cessationists-have-any-evidence-at-all-to-support-their-theory">Do Cessationists Have Any Evidence at All to Support Their Theory?</a>” <em>Charisma </em>(October 18, 2023).</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Michael Brown, “<a href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2023/october-web-only/reformed-cessationism-charismatic-continuationism-miracles.html">Let the Reformed of the Lord Say No to Cessationism: Disbelief in the Spirit’s miraculous work is gaining ground in some Christian circles, but it’s fighting a losing battle</a>” <em>Christianity Today</em> (October 9, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Pastor John Lathrop notes that to read the full article you will need a CT account.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>David Livermore, “<a href="https://davidlivermore.com/2023/10/13/how-to-compensate-for-lack-of-lived-experience/">How to compensate for lack of lived experience</a>” DavidLivermore.com (October 13, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">One of the founders of the Cultural Intelligence Center and PneumaReview.com author, <a href="http://pneumareview.com/author/davidlivermore/">David Livermore</a> was asked this question by Rodger Dean Duncan when he interviewed him for <em>Forbes</em>: “What’s your response to someone who’s skeptical about a book about diversity written by a white man?”</p>
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<div style="width: 210px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/EberhardGrossgasteiger-wUWP53W7KbY-397x593.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="299" /><p class="wp-caption-text"><small>Image: Eberhard Grossgasteiger</small></p></div>
<p>Michael L. Brown, “<a href="https://mycharisma.com/article/stewarding-gods-holy-flames-of-revival/">Stewarding God’s Holy Flames of Revival</a>” <em>Charisma </em>(November 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">John Lathrop writes: “Here is the link to an excerpt from Dr. Michael Brown’s newest book.” <a href="https://amzn.to/3u5Gg5W"><em>Seize the Moment: How to Fuel the Fires of Revival</em></a> publishes in January, 2024.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Maryam Rostampour-Keller, “<a href="https://www.newsweek.com/persecuted-christians-around-world-need-us-safe-haven-opinion-1833231">Persecuted Christians Around the World Need the U.S. To Be a Safe Haven</a>” <em>Newsweek </em>(October 13, 2023).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Maryam Rostampour-Keller co-authored <a href="https://amzn.to/2yflOCz"><em>Captive in Iran: A Remarkable True Story of Hope and Triumph amid the Horror of Tehran&#8217;s Brutal Evin Prison</em></a> and “<a href="http://pneumareview.com/miracles-in-an-iranian-prison-an-interview-with-maryam-rostampour-and-marziyeh-amirizadeh/">Miracles in an Iranian Prison: An interview with Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh</a>,” which appeared in the Spring 2020 issue of <em>The Pneuma Review</em>.</p>
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		<title>Michael Brown&#8217;s Authentic Fire, reviewed by William De Arteaga</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael L. Brown, Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur&#8217;s Strange Fire (Excel Publishers, Dec 12, 2013), 418 pages. Authentic Fire, by Dr. Michael L. Brown, is a masterful answer to the intemperate and angry attack on Charismatic movement and Pentecostalism by John MacArthur in his work, Strange Fire.[1] In the public launch to Strange [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><b>Michael L. Brown, <a href="https://amzn.to/2M62F8z"><i>Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur&#8217;s Strange Fire</i></a> (Excel Publishers, Dec 12, 2013), 418 pages.</b></p>
<p><a href="https://amzn.to/2M62F8z"><i>Authentic Fire</i></a>, by Dr. Michael L. Brown, is a masterful answer to the intemperate and angry attack on Charismatic movement and Pentecostalism by John MacArthur in his work, <i>Strange Fire.</i><a title="" href="#_ftn1"><em><sup><em><sup>[1]</sup></em></sup></em></a><i> </i>In the public launch to <i>Strange Fire</i>, MacArthur made clear his utter disdain for the Charismatic Movement in particular:</p>
<blockquote><p>Nothing coming from the Charismatic movement has provided recovery or strengthening of the biblical Gospel. Nothing has preserved truth and sound doctrine. It has only produced distortion, confusion, and error. Yes, there are people in the movement who know and love the truth, have an orthodox Gospel, but are heterodox on the Holy Spirit. Not all of them are heretics. But I say again the contribution of truth from the people in the movement doesn’t come from the movement, but in spite of it …<a title="" href="#_ftn2"><sup>[2]</sup></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Brown is one of the best-qualified persons in Christendom to answer MacArthur’s accusations. He converted from nominal Judaism into Pentecostal Christianity, and then for a season became a cessationist. However, his careful study of the scriptures showed him that cessationism was indefensible. Subsequently, mission trips to Third World areas showed Brown time and again that today God works powerful “signs and wonders”—just as in New Testament times. Well educated, Michael Brown holds a Ph.D. in Near Eastern Languages and Literatures, his dissertation was on the healing character of God in the Old Testament. He has written multiple books on a whole range of issues, from biblical commentaries to works on revival, and Jewish oriented apologetics.</p>
<p>In his pastoral and teaching roles of the Brownsville Revival, and in his numerous teaching positions at various Pentecostal and Evangelical seminaries, Brown has demonstrated his commitment to the Pentecostal/charismatic appreciation of the gifts of the Spirit. But Brown has also been a critic of the excesses within the Charismatic movement, especially the exaggerated prosperity theology so present in Christian TV ministries. One of his many books,<i> The End of the American Gospel Enterprise, </i>took special aim at this issue.<a title="" href="#_ftn3"><em><sup><em><sup>[3]</sup></em></sup></em></a> In a recently released book he also criticizes, in his typical respectful but biblically forceful manner, the new “grace message” circulating in some charismatic churches.<em> <a title="" href="#_ftn4"><sup><em><sup>[4]</sup></em></sup></a></em></p>
<p>In fact, Brown may be considered among a special category of Christian theologian and critics—what I term, “prophetic critics.” That is, one who appreciates and affirms the moves of the Holy Spirit in revivals, but is critical of the improper “spillover” of revival, as when ministries and evangelists go beyond the bounds of scripture. In this august group one should first cite Jonathan Edwards, whose numerous writings both defended the First Great Awakening, but also critiqued its exaggerations.</p>
<p>Many past revivals have had such prophetic critics. For instance, Captain Kelso Carter was a leader of the first healing revival of modern Christianity, the Faith Cure Movement (1880s). However, he saw that many of its leaders were taking a wrong turn in advocating the rejection of medication as being contrary to healing prayer, and critiqued them for this.<a title="" href="#_ftn5"><em><sup><em><sup>[5]</sup></em></sup></em></a> In the charismatic movement of the 1970s, Charles Farah, Jr., one of the early leaders of that movement, wrote a now classic critical work on the exaggerations of the Word Faith Movement, <i>From the Pinnacle of the Temple</i>.<a title="" href="#_ftn6"><em><sup><em><sup>[6]</sup></em></sup></em></a> This work strongly criticized some of Kenneth Hagin’s teachings.</p>
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		<title>John MacArthur’s Strange Fire, reviewed by Monte Lee Rice</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John MacArthur, Strange Fire: The Danger of Offending the Holy Spirit with Counterfeit Worship (Nashville, TN: Nelson Books, 2013), 333 pages, ISBN 9781400206414. Introduction In this highly polemical book, John MacArthur argues that as an aggressive though “counterfeit” form of Christian spirituality, the global Pentecostal-Charismatic movement is neither founded on nor representative of orthodox Christian [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span class="bk-button-wrapper"><a href="http://pneumareview.com/are-pentecostals-offering-strange-fire/" target="_self" class="bk-button yellow center rounded large">Are Pentecostals offering Strange Fire? (Panel Discussion)</a></span>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Strange-Fire-Offending-Counterfeit-Worship/dp/1400205174/ref=as_li_tf_mfw?&amp;linkCode=wey&amp;tag=wildwoocom-20"><img class="size-full wp-image-472 alignright" title="Strange Fire" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/MacArthur-Strange-Fire.jpg" alt="MacArthur Strange Fire" width="149" height="223" /></a><b>John MacArthur, <i>Strange Fire: The Danger of Offending the Holy Spirit with Counterfeit Worship</i> (Nashville, TN: Nelson Books, 2013), 333 pages, ISBN 9781400206414.</b></p>
<p><b>Introduction</b></p>
<p>In this highly polemical book, John MacArthur argues that as an aggressive though “counterfeit” form of Christian spirituality, the global Pentecostal-Charismatic movement is neither founded on nor representative of orthodox Christian doctrine. He claims it has infiltrated and is undermining orthodox Christianity with “counterfeit” theologies, worship beliefs, and practices—all emerging from its heretical doctrine of the Holy Spirit. MacArthur’s stated purpose for writing this book is to therefore galvanize the “evangelical church” in concerted condemnation against its existence, and honour the Holy Spirit by ridding the evangelical church of the movement’s influence, thus leading to the recovery of correct doctrines of the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>Having read some highly constructive reviews and responses emerging on MacArthur’s book, in this review, I will hopefully avoid covering matters already well addressed, and provide critique on issues perhaps not adequately touched. I will begin first however with a thematic survey on the book’s content.</p>
<p><b>Survey</b></p>
<p>In sermonic style, MacArthur begins his treatise by setting forth the Pentateuchal narrative on Nadab and Abihu’s priestly offering of “strange fire” and God’s judgement against them, as his controlling metaphor for exposing the demonically sourced errors of Pentecostal/Charismatic spirituality that have infiltrated Evangelical Christianity. MacArthur then structures his book into three parts. In Part One (“Confronting a Counterfeit Revival”), MacArthur pursues two basic objectives. First (chapter 1) is to establish that the “systemic” reason for the Pentecostal-Charismatic movement’s existence as a false form of Christian spirituality, is its elevation of “religious experience over biblical truth.” (pp. 16-17). He then argues that at the heart of this aberration is the movement’s historical foundation upon a “deficient soteriology,” which conversely fosters this elevation of experience. Here, MacArthur directly blames the soteriological themes of 19th century Holiness Movement teachings (p. 27).</p>
<p>MacArthur moreover charges that this deficient soteriology under girded the preaching of early Pentecostal leaders, particularly that of Charles Parham. While stressing the dubious nature of Parham’s life and ministry, MacArthur argues that we acknowledge him as the originating founder of the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement—in order to jeopardize the theological “legitimacy” of the whole movement (p. 26-28). MacArthur moreover argues that equally responsible for the “theological foundations” of the movement is E.W. Kenyon, whose seminal Word of Faith doctrine MacArthur stresses, is rooted in a synthesis of various early 20th century “New Thought” metaphysical teachings (pp. 28-31). Hence, in MacArthur’s construal of Pentecostal historiography, Parham and Kenyon together “are responsible for the theological foundations upon which the entire charismatic system is built,” and together represent its dubious “historical roots.” Hence, in MacArthur’s construal of Pentecostal historiography, the doctrinal and moral errors of Parham and Kenyon together establish the dubious theological underpinnings of Pentecostalism and the Charismatic Movement (p. 31).</p>
<p>MacArthur’s second pursued objective of Part One (chapters 3 and 4) is to critique Pentecostal-Charismatic spirituality via Jonathan Edwards’ “distinguishing marks” of genuine spiritual renewal (e.g., “The Distinguishing Marks of a Work of the Spirit of God”). MacArthur thereby argues that Pentecostal-Charismatic spirituality is neither birthed by nor honouring to the Holy Spirit. To argue this MacArthur alleges that the movement shifts people away from Christ by its false doctrines, worship practices and experiences wrongly attributed to the Holy Spirit (pp. 53), and through its fostering of immorality via its emphasis on miracles and prosperity gospel teaching. (pp. 60, 65-66). Crucial also to this critique, is MacArthur’s allegations that Pentecostal/Charismatic spirituality moreover undermines Scriptural authority by encouraging believers to seek extra biblical revelation (pp. 67-68), thus elevating false experiences of God over Scriptural and doctrinal truth (pp. 71-72). Finally, MacArthur charges that Pentecostal-Charismatic spirituality fails to produce genuine love amongst believers (pp. 74-76), which MacArthur roots to the movement’s narcissistic blending of “<i>mysticism</i>” (via charismatic worship practices) to the “<i>materialism</i> of prosperity theology” (p. 78). MacArthur concluding verdict is that Pentecostals and Charismatics are “playing with strange fire” (p. 81).</p>
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		<title>Cessationist Misuse of Ephesians 2:20, by Sam Storms</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the on-going dialogue between cessationists and continuationists there is a passage that the former almost always mention. It is, in many instances, their go-to text, their trump card, so to speak. But a close look at Ephesians 2:20 will demonstrate that it fails to accomplish what the cessationist desires. Paul writes: “So then you [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the on-going dialogue between cessationists and continuationists there is a passage that the former almost always mention. It is, in many instances, their go-to text, their trump card, so to speak. But a close look at Ephesians 2:20 will demonstrate that it fails to accomplish what the cessationist desires. Paul writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>“So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone” (Eph. 2:19-20).</p></blockquote>
<p>The cessationist insists that, according to the analogy Paul employs, apostles and prophets belong to the period of the foundation, not the superstructure. That is to say, these two groups and their respective gifts were designed by God to operate only during the early years of the church’s existence in order to lay the once-for-all foundation.</p>
<p>At the Strange Fire conference, in his session devoted to articulating arguments for cessationism, Tom Pennington stated that “once the apostles and prophets finished their role in laying the foundation of the church, their gifts were completed,” which is to say, they ceased to function and eventually ceased to exist altogether.</p>
<p>But several things must be noted.</p>
<div style="width: 262px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/284452439_6401.jpg" alt="" width="252" height="106" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Sam Storms</p></div>
<p>The cessationist argument fails to take note of vv. 21-22 where Paul refers to the superstructure of the church as under construction, so to speak, as he speaks/writes (note the consistent use of the present tenses in vv. 21-22). In other words, the apostles and prophets of v. 20, among whom was Paul, were also contributing to the superstructure, of which the Ephesians were a contemporary part, simultaneous with their laying the foundation on which it was being built. We must be careful not to push the metaphor beyond what Paul intended by it.</p>
<p>To use an analogy, once a man establishes a company, writes its by-laws, articulates its vision, hires employees, and does all the work essential in laying the foundation for its future work and productivity, he does not necessarily cease to exist or to serve the company in other capacities. As Jack Deere points out, &#8220;the founding director of a company or corporation will always be unique in the sense that he or she was the founder, but that does not mean the company would not have future directors or presidents&#8221; (<em>Surprised by the Power of the Spirit</em>, 248).</p>
<p>Furthermore, on the cessationist’s view, all NT prophets functioned foundationally. But there is nothing to suggest that &#8220;the prophets&#8221; in Ephesians 2:20 is an exhaustive reference to all possible prophets in the church. Why should we conclude that the only kind of prophetic activity is &#8220;foundational&#8221; in nature, especially in light of what the NT says about the extent and effect of prophetic ministry? It simply isn&#8217;t possible to believe that all prophetic utterances were part of the once-for-all foundation of the church. For one thing, the NT nowhere says they were. For another, it portrays prophetic ministry in an entirely different light from the one most cessationists attempt to deduce from Ephesians 2:20. Surely not everyone who ministered prophetically was apostolic. Therefore, the cessation of the latter is no argument for the cessation of the former.</p>
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		<title>Does God Still Give Revelation Today?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Scott Lencke. Continuationists believe God still speaks today. This happens not only through the word of God in Scripture, but even through specific words or what we might term as “revelations.” These revelations can come in various manners – prophecies, words of knowledge, words of wisdom, visions, dreams, etc. – but God still communicates [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>By Scott Lencke.</p></blockquote>
<p>Continuationists believe God still speaks today. This happens not only through the word of God in Scripture, but even through specific words or what we might term as “revelations.” These revelations can come in various manners – prophecies, words of knowledge, words of wisdom, visions, dreams, etc. – but God still communicates and speaks today. He actually never desired anything less.</p>
<p>However, what can get easily leveled against continuationists, from a more cessationist camp, is the idea that such revelation would no longer be needed knowing we now have the completed revelation of God in Jesus Christ, which is, of course, summarized in the full canon of Scripture. This revelation is the <i>final</i> word and no other such revelation is needed. And I understand the concern, especially noting such doctrines as the <i>sufficiency of Scripture</i>. However, I believe there is a very balanced approach that allows for the God-breathed Scriptures to maintain their authoritative place as God’s written revelation while also maintaining that God still speaks, reveals and communicates today.</p>
<p>Here is what I believe we need to recognize.</p>
<p>We must confess there is no more needed revelation from God with respect to his <b><i>redemptive</i></b> purposes in Jesus Christ. No more! The work of Christ and the revelation concerning this work – summed up in his life, ministry, death and resurrection – are <b><i>the final word on God’s redemptive revelation and purposes</i></b>. And I believe the New Testament makes this quite clear.</p>
<p>Yet, I do not think it is out of bounds to believe God continues to communicate in what I might term as a <b><i>non-redemptive</i></b> measure. This is where continuationists part from cessationists.</p>
<p>Again, I reiterate that it would be quite detrimental to say there is still more for God to reveal concerning the redemption of humanity through Christ and the gospel of the kingdom. Christ remains the final word on such. But, to believe God still reveals today, in a non-redemptive sense, should not be seen as harmful to a faith that looks to be grounded in Christ, the gospel and the testimony of the canon of Scripture. Matter of fact, I would argue that, to not allow for God to still directly speak and reveal today, in all his various manners, would cut us off from something very dear to the heart of God.</p>
<p>In all, I want to give two pointers as to why I believe in continuing, non-redemptive revelation:</p>
<p><b>1) Even while the canon of Scripture was being formed, God was always speaking para-Scripture, meaning he was speaking <i>alongside</i> what would be included in the canon of Scripture.</b></p>
<p>A couple examples would be found in places such as 1 Samuel 10:10-13 and 1 Timothy 1:18-19.</p>
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		<title>The False Doctrine Behind John MacArthur&#8217;s Strange Fire, by Eddie Hyatt</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 09:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his latest book, Strange Fire, John MacArthur viciously labels the Pentecostal-Charismatic movement as “a false church as dangerous as any cult or heresy that has ever assaulted Christianity.” As I have read and reread his polemic, one thing that becomes clear is that MacArthur’s entire theological outlook is guided and determined by his commitment [&#8230;]]]></description>
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In his latest book, <i>Strange Fire</i>, John MacArthur viciously labels the Pentecostal-Charismatic movement as “a false church as dangerous as any cult or heresy that has ever assaulted Christianity.” As I have read and reread his polemic, one thing that becomes clear is that MacArthur’s entire theological outlook is guided and determined by his commitment to the Calvinistic doctrine of cessationism, <i>i.e.,</i> the belief that the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit were withdrawn from the church after the death of the original apostles of Christ. This, however, is a false doctrine that cannot be substantiated by either Scripture or church history.</p>
<p>Those who succeeded the original apostles as leaders in the churches make no mention of a cessation theory. They do, on the other hand, give testimony of miraculous gifts and healings occurring in their day. I have documented this in my book, <i>2000 Years of Charismatic Christianity</i>, published by Charisma House. Consider the following quotes from church fathers recognized by both Protestants and Catholics as the legitimate successors of the original apostles.</p>
<p><b>Justin Martyr</b> (100-165)–“For the prophetical gifts remain with us even to the present time. Now it is possible to see among us women and men who possess gifts of the Spirit of God” (Eddie Hyatt, <i>2000 Years of Charismatic Christianity</i>, 15).</p>
<p><b>Irenaeus</b> (125-200)–“In like manner we do also hear many brethren in the Church who possess prophetic gifts and through the Spirit speak all kinds of languages &#8230; Yes, moreover, as I have said, the dead even have been raised up, and remained among us for many years” (Hyatt, 16).</p>
<p><b>Tertullian</b> (150-240)–“For seeing that we too acknowledge the spiritual <i>charismata</i>, or gifts, we too have merited the attainment of the prophetic gift &#8230; and heaven knows how many distinguished men, to say nothing of the common people, have been cured either of devils or of their sicknesses” (Hyatt, 17).</p>
<p><b>Novation</b> (210-280)–“This is he [the Holy Spirit] who places prophets in the church, instructs teachers, directs tongues, gives powers and healings, does wonderful works &#8230; and arranges whatever gifts there are of the <i>charismata</i>; and thus making the Lord’s Church everywhere, and in all, perfected and completed (Hyatt, 20-21).</p>
<p><b>Origen</b> (185-284)–“Some give evidence of their having received through this faith a marvelous power by the cures which they perform, invoking no other over those who need their help that that of the God of all things, along with Jesus and a mention of his history” (Hyatt, 18-19).</p>
<p><b>Augustine</b> (354-430)–In his work, <i>The City of God</i>, Augustine tells of healings and miracles that he has observed first hand and then says, “I am so pressed by the promise of finishing this work that I cannot record all the miracles I know” (44-45).</p>
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		<title>Should Christians Expect Miracles Today? Objections and Answers from the Bible, Part 4, by Wayne A. Grudem</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[22. Doesn&#8217;t the Bible teach that the Holy Spirit will never call attention to Himself, but will always direct our attention to Christ? Then how can it be right to place so much emphasis on the work of the Holy Spirit today? This objection is based on trying to force a false alternative, one not [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-777" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/W_GRUDEM.jpg" alt="Wayne A. Grudem" width="150" height="197" /><b>22. <em>Doesn&#8217;t the Bible teach that the Holy Spirit will never call attention to Himself, but will always direct our attention to Christ? Then how can it be right to place so much emphasis on the work of the Holy Spirit today?</em></b></p>
<p>This objection is based on trying to force a false alternative, one not supported by Scripture. Of course the Holy Spirit <em>does</em> glorify Jesus (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18623609">John 16:14</a>) and bear witness to Jesus (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18623648">John 15:26</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18623685">Acts 5:32</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18623718">1 John 2:3</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18623753">4:2</a>). But this does not mean He does not make His own actions and words known. The Bible has <em>hundreds</em> of verses talking about the work of the Holy Spirit, making His work known, and Bible is itself spoken or inspired by the Holy Spirit. <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18623851">Matthew 28:19</a>, &#8220;Make disciples …baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,&#8221; suggests that the Holy Spirit is to be given equal honor with the Father and the Son in the Church.</p>
<p>Moreover, the Holy Spirit frequently made Himself known by some phenomenon or event that indicated His activity, both in the Old Testament and in the New Testament. This was true when the Holy Spirit came upon the 70 elders with Moses and they prophesied (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624007">Numbers 11:25-26</a>), or when the Holy Spirit came upon the judges to enable them to do great works of power (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624074">Judges 14:6</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624109">19</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624143">15:14</a>). People could see the effect of the Holy Spirit coming on someone in these cases. This was also true when the Holy Spirit came mightily upon Saul and he prophesied with a band of prophets (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624226">1 Samuel 10:6</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624257">10</a>), and it was frequently true when the Holy Spirit empowered the Old Testament prophets to give public prophecies.</p>
<p>The Holy Spirit also made Himself known or evident in a visible way when he descended as a dove on Jesus (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624352">John 1:32</a>), or came as a sound of a rushing wind and with visible tongues of fire on the disciples at Pentecost (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624417">Acts 2:2-3</a>). In addition, when people had the Holy Spirit poured out on them and began to speak in tongues or praise God in a remarkable and spontaneous way (see <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624494">Acts 2:4</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624530">10:44-46</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624564">19:6</a>), the Holy Spirit certainly made His presence known as well. And Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit within us would be so powerful He would be like a river of living water flowing out from our inmost beings (see <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=18624651">John 7:39</a>): Certainly that simile suggests a kind of presence people would be aware of, a presence that would somehow be perceptible.</p>
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		<title>Should Christians Expect Miracles Today? Objections and Answers from the Bible, Part 3, by Wayne A. Grudem</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[15. Why do people speak directly to demons today and command them to leave, rather than just praying and asking God to drive the demon away? Isn&#8217;t it safer just to pray to God about this? In a way, this is similar to asking why Christians should share the gospel with another person rather than [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-777" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/W_GRUDEM.jpg" alt="Wayne A. Grudem" width="150" height="197" /><b>15. <em>Why do people speak directly to demons today and command them to leave, rather than just praying and asking God to drive the demon away? Isn&#8217;t it safer just to pray to God about this?</em></b></p>
<p>In a way, this is similar to asking why Christians should share the gospel with another person rather than simply praying and asking God to reveal the gospel to that person directly. Or why should we speak words of encouragement to a Christian who is discouraged rather than just praying and asking God Himself to encourage that person directly? Why should we speak a word of rebuke or gentle admonition to a Christian, whom we see involved in some kind of sin, rather than just praying and asking God to take care of the sin in that person&#8217;s life?</p>
<p>The answer to all these questions is that in the kind of world God has created, He has given us an active role in carrying out His plans, especially His plans for advancing the Kingdom and building up the Church. In all of these cases, our direct involvement and activity is important in addition to our prayers. And so it seems to be in our dealing with demonic forces as well.</p>
<p>As a wise father who does not settle all of his children&#8217;s disputes for them, but sometimes sends them back out to the playground to settle a dispute themselves, so our heavenly Father encourages us to enter directly into conflict with demonic forces, in the name of Christ and in the power of the Holy Spirit. Thereby He enables us to gain the joy of participating in eternally significant ministry and the joy of triumphing over the destructive power of Satan and his demons in people&#8217;s lives. God could certainly deal with demonic attacks every time we prayed and asked Him to do so, and He no doubt sometimes does. But the New Testament pattern seems to be that God ordinarily expects Christians themselves to speak directly to the unclean spirits.</p>
<p>We see this pattern of speaking directly to demons first in the ministry of Jesus. He spoke to the demon troubling a man in the synagogue, saying, &#8220;Be silent, and come out of Him!&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=17500710">Mark 1:25</a>). He commanded the demons in the Gadarene demoniac, &#8220;Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=17500784">Mark 5:8</a>). When Jesus encountered a young boy severely afflicted by a demon, &#8220;He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, &#8216;You dumb and deaf spirit, I command you, come out of him, and never enter him again'&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=17500886">Mark 9:25</a>). This was Jesus&#8217; general pattern, for people said about Him, &#8220;What is this word? For with authority and power he commands the unclean spirits, and they come out&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=17500976">Luke 4:36</a>).</p>
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		<title>Should Christians Expect Miracles Today? Objections and Answers from the Bible, Part 2, by Wayne A. Grudem</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[8. Doesn&#8217;t Hebrews 2:3 tell us that miracles were restricted to the apostles, &#8220;those who heard him&#8221;? In Hebrews 2:3-4, the author says about the message of salvation, It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard him, while God also bore witness23  by signs and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-777" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/W_GRUDEM.jpg" alt="Wayne A. Grudem" width="150" height="197" /><b>8. <em>Doesn&#8217;t <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16544035">Hebrews 2:3</a> tell us that miracles were restricted to the apostles, &#8220;those who heard him&#8221;?</em></b></p>
<p style="padding-left: 35;">In <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16544128">Hebrews 2:3-4</a>, the author says about the message of salvation,</p>
<p>It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard him, while God also bore witness<a href="#note23"><sup>23</sup></a><a name="#noter23"></a>  by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his own will.</p>
<p>The miracles here are said to come through those who heard the Lord firsthand (&#8220;those who heard him&#8221;), so it is argued that we should not expect them to be done through others who were not firsthand witnesses to the Lord&#8217;s teaching and ministry.<a href="#note24"><sup>24</sup></a><a name="#noter24"></a></p>
<p>But this argument attempts to draw more from the passage than is there. First, the phrase &#8220;those who heard him&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16544757">Hebrews 2:3</a>) is certainly not limited to the apostles, for many others heard Jesus as well (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16544820">Luke 10:1 ff</a>.; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16544876">John 6:60-70</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16544918">1 Corinthians 15:6</a>). But more importantly, this position is claiming something the text simply does not say: That the gospel message was confirmed by miracles when it was preached by those who heard Jesus says nothing at all about whether it would be confirmed by miracles when preached by others who did not hear Jesus.</p>
<p>Finally, this passage says the message was confirmed not only by &#8220;signs and wonders and various miracles&#8221; but also by &#8220;gifts of the Holy Spirit.&#8221; If someone argues that this passage limits miracles to the apostles and their companions, then he or she must also argue that gifts of the Holy Spirit are likewise limited to the first-century Church. But few would argue that there are no gifts of the Holy Spirit today.</p>
<p><b>9. <em>When Paul says, &#8220;Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16545566">1 Corinthians 1:22-23</a></em>), doesn&#8217;t he warn us against seeking signs and say that we should just preach the gospel of Christ?</b></p>
<p>Here Paul cannot be denying that he performed miracles in connection with proclaiming the gospel. In <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16545704">Romans 15:18-19</a>, a passage Paul wrote while in Corinth, he said,</p>
<p style="padding-left: 35px;">For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has wrought through me <em>to win obedience from the Gentiles,</em> by <em>word and deed, by the power of signs and wonders</em>, by the power of the Holy Spirit, so that from Jerusalem and as far round as Illyr&#8217;icum I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.</p>
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		<title>Should Christians Expect Miracles Today? Objections and Answers from the Bible, Part 1, by Wayne A. Grudem</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should we expect the Holy Spirit to work in powerful, miraculous ways in connection with the preaching of the gospel and the life of the Church today? This has been the claim of John Wimber and the Vineyard movement, and of others within what is called the &#8220;third wave&#8221; of renewal by the Holy Spirit.1  [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Should we expect the Holy Spirit to work in powerful, miraculous ways in connection with the preaching of the gospel and the life of the Church today? This has been the claim of John Wimber and the Vineyard movement, and of others within what is called the &#8220;third wave&#8221; of renewal by the Holy Spirit.<a href="#note1"><sup>1</sup></a><a name="#noter1"></a>  Similar claims have been made for years by Christians within the Pentecostal and charismatic movements. But other evangelicals have differed with this claim, and have raised several objections. In this series, I want to consider some of the most frequent objections and propose some answers from Scripture.</p>
<p><b>1. <em>Doesn&#8217;t Jesus say, &#8220;An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign shall be given to it except the sign of Jonah&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14731500">Matthew 16:4</a>)?<a href="#note2"><sup>2</sup></a><a name="#noter2"></a>  Doesn&#8217;t this mean we should not seek miracles today—rather, we should look to &#8220;the sign of Jonah,&#8221; which means the resurrection of Christ, and emphasize that when we talk about miracles?<a href="#note3"><sup>3</sup></a><a name="#noter3"></a></em></b></p>
<p>The mistake made in this objection is a failure to look at the context and find whom Jesus was talking to. In the context of <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14731398">Matthew 16</a>, it is the <i>Pharisees</i> and <i>Sadducees</i> who came, &#8220;and <em>to test him</em> they asked him to show them a sign from heaven&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14731696">Matthew 16:1</a>). Similarly, it was the <em>hostile scribes</em> and <em>Pharisees</em> who came in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14731911">Matthew 12:38-45</a>, the <em>Pharisees</em> who began to argue with him &#8220;<em>to test him</em>&#8221; in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14732042">Mark 8:11-12</a>, and skeptics who came &#8220;to test him&#8221; and seek a sign from heaven in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14732116">Luke 11:16</a>. (The only passage that doesn&#8217;t specify that the comment was directed against hostile unbelievers is <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14732233">Luke 11:29</a>, but the parallel passage in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14732306">Matthew 12:39-42</a> does specify that it was specifically the scribes and Pharisees against whom this word was directed.)</p>
<p>So in every instance the rebuke for seeking signs is addressed to hostile unbelievers. Jesus is rebuking Jewish leaders who had hard hearts and were simply seeking a pretext for criticizing Him. <em>In no case are such rebukes addressed to genuine followers of Jesus</em> who sought a miracle for physical healing or deliverance for themselves or others, either out of compassion for others or out of a desire to advance the gospel and see God&#8217;s name glorified. <em>These warning verses, taken in the original contexts, apply to unbelievers</em>, and therefore to use them to apply to genuine Christians is an illegitimate application. <em>No New Testament passages warn against the use of miracles by genuine Christians</em>.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the New Testament encourages us to believe God and seek answers to prayer in many ways, including miraculous answers to prayer. (See <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14732772">Acts 4:30</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14732833">1 Corinthians 14:1</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14733149">Galatians 3:5</a> [implicitly], see also the entire pattern of gospel proclamation plus miraculous demonstration in the evangelism carried on in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14733260">Acts 3:6</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=16362273">12ff</a>.; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14733358">4:29</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817663">30</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816217">5:12-16</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816292">20</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816338">21</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816366">28</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816431">42</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816478">6:8</a> <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816512">10</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816554">8:4-7</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816592">12</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816623">9:17</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816666">18</a> [cf. <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816720">22:13</a>] <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816767">34</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816799">35</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816837">14:3</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816882">8-10</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14816920">15ff.</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817110">15:12</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817140">36</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817174">18:5</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817208">11</a> [cf. <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817252">2 Corinthians 12:12</a>, <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817302">1 Corinthians 2:4-5</a>]; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817479">19:8-12</a>; compare <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817521">Hebrews 2:4</a>; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=14817560">James 5:13-18</a>).</p>
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