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		<title>Cessationist Misuse of Ephesians 2:20, by Sam Storms</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the on-going dialogue between cessationists and continuationists there is a passage that the former almost always mention. It is, in many instances, their go-to text, their trump card, so to speak. But a close look at Ephesians 2:20 will demonstrate that it fails to accomplish what the cessationist desires. Paul writes: “So then you [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the on-going dialogue between cessationists and continuationists there is a passage that the former almost always mention. It is, in many instances, their go-to text, their trump card, so to speak. But a close look at Ephesians 2:20 will demonstrate that it fails to accomplish what the cessationist desires. Paul writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>“So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone” (Eph. 2:19-20).</p></blockquote>
<p>The cessationist insists that, according to the analogy Paul employs, apostles and prophets belong to the period of the foundation, not the superstructure. That is to say, these two groups and their respective gifts were designed by God to operate only during the early years of the church’s existence in order to lay the once-for-all foundation.</p>
<p>At the Strange Fire conference, in his session devoted to articulating arguments for cessationism, Tom Pennington stated that “once the apostles and prophets finished their role in laying the foundation of the church, their gifts were completed,” which is to say, they ceased to function and eventually ceased to exist altogether.</p>
<p>But several things must be noted.</p>
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<p>The cessationist argument fails to take note of vv. 21-22 where Paul refers to the superstructure of the church as under construction, so to speak, as he speaks/writes (note the consistent use of the present tenses in vv. 21-22). In other words, the apostles and prophets of v. 20, among whom was Paul, were also contributing to the superstructure, of which the Ephesians were a contemporary part, simultaneous with their laying the foundation on which it was being built. We must be careful not to push the metaphor beyond what Paul intended by it.</p>
<p>To use an analogy, once a man establishes a company, writes its by-laws, articulates its vision, hires employees, and does all the work essential in laying the foundation for its future work and productivity, he does not necessarily cease to exist or to serve the company in other capacities. As Jack Deere points out, &#8220;the founding director of a company or corporation will always be unique in the sense that he or she was the founder, but that does not mean the company would not have future directors or presidents&#8221; (<em>Surprised by the Power of the Spirit</em>, 248).</p>
<p>Furthermore, on the cessationist’s view, all NT prophets functioned foundationally. But there is nothing to suggest that &#8220;the prophets&#8221; in Ephesians 2:20 is an exhaustive reference to all possible prophets in the church. Why should we conclude that the only kind of prophetic activity is &#8220;foundational&#8221; in nature, especially in light of what the NT says about the extent and effect of prophetic ministry? It simply isn&#8217;t possible to believe that all prophetic utterances were part of the once-for-all foundation of the church. For one thing, the NT nowhere says they were. For another, it portrays prophetic ministry in an entirely different light from the one most cessationists attempt to deduce from Ephesians 2:20. Surely not everyone who ministered prophetically was apostolic. Therefore, the cessation of the latter is no argument for the cessation of the former.</p>
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		<title>Should Christians Expect Miracles Today? Objections and Answers from the Bible, Part 3, by Wayne A. Grudem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Grudem]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[15. Why do people speak directly to demons today and command them to leave, rather than just praying and asking God to drive the demon away? Isn&#8217;t it safer just to pray to God about this? In a way, this is similar to asking why Christians should share the gospel with another person rather than [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<div style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/POTC-300x217.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="217" /><p class="wp-caption-text"><big><strong>The Power of the Cross: The Biblical Place of Healing and Gift-Based Ministry in Proclaiming the Gospel</strong></big></p></div>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-777" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/W_GRUDEM.jpg" alt="Wayne A. Grudem" width="150" height="197" /><b>15. <em>Why do people speak directly to demons today and command them to leave, rather than just praying and asking God to drive the demon away? Isn&#8217;t it safer just to pray to God about this?</em></b></p>
<p>In a way, this is similar to asking why Christians should share the gospel with another person rather than simply praying and asking God to reveal the gospel to that person directly. Or why should we speak words of encouragement to a Christian who is discouraged rather than just praying and asking God Himself to encourage that person directly? Why should we speak a word of rebuke or gentle admonition to a Christian, whom we see involved in some kind of sin, rather than just praying and asking God to take care of the sin in that person&#8217;s life?</p>
<p>The answer to all these questions is that in the kind of world God has created, He has given us an active role in carrying out His plans, especially His plans for advancing the Kingdom and building up the Church. In all of these cases, our direct involvement and activity is important in addition to our prayers. And so it seems to be in our dealing with demonic forces as well.</p>
<p>As a wise father who does not settle all of his children&#8217;s disputes for them, but sometimes sends them back out to the playground to settle a dispute themselves, so our heavenly Father encourages us to enter directly into conflict with demonic forces, in the name of Christ and in the power of the Holy Spirit. Thereby He enables us to gain the joy of participating in eternally significant ministry and the joy of triumphing over the destructive power of Satan and his demons in people&#8217;s lives. God could certainly deal with demonic attacks every time we prayed and asked Him to do so, and He no doubt sometimes does. But the New Testament pattern seems to be that God ordinarily expects Christians themselves to speak directly to the unclean spirits.</p>
<p>We see this pattern of speaking directly to demons first in the ministry of Jesus. He spoke to the demon troubling a man in the synagogue, saying, &#8220;Be silent, and come out of Him!&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=17500710">Mark 1:25</a>). He commanded the demons in the Gadarene demoniac, &#8220;Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=17500784">Mark 5:8</a>). When Jesus encountered a young boy severely afflicted by a demon, &#8220;He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, &#8216;You dumb and deaf spirit, I command you, come out of him, and never enter him again'&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=17500886">Mark 9:25</a>). This was Jesus&#8217; general pattern, for people said about Him, &#8220;What is this word? For with authority and power he commands the unclean spirits, and they come out&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=17500976">Luke 4:36</a>).</p>
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