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		<title>Pentecostal Encounters with Suffering: an interview with Pamela F. Engelbert</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the publisher: What transpires when Classical Pentecostals pray for God to intervene amidst their suffering, but God does not? Traditionally, Classical Pentecostals center on encountering God as demonstrated through the relating of testimonies of their experiences with God. In seeking to contribute to a theology of suffering for Pentecostals, Pam Engelbert lifts up the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><a href="https://wipfandstock.com/9781532633539/who-is-present-in-absence/">From the publisher</a>: What transpires when Classical Pentecostals pray for God to intervene amidst their suffering, but God does not? Traditionally, Classical Pentecostals center on encountering God as demonstrated through the relating of testimonies of their experiences with God. In seeking to contribute to a theology of suffering for Pentecostals, Pam Engelbert lifts up the stories of eight Classical Pentecostals to discover how they experienced God and others amidst their extended suffering even when God did not intervene as they had prayed. By valuing each story, this qualitative practical theology work embraces a Pentecostal hermeneutic of experience combined with Scripture, specifically the Gospel of John. As a Pentecostal practical theological project it offers a praxis (theology of action) of suffering and healing during times when we experience the apparent absence of God. It invites the reader to enter into the space of the other’s suffering by way of empathy, thereby participating in God’s act of ministry to humanity through God’s expression of empathy in the very person of Jesus.</p>
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<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><em>Interview with Dr. Pamela F. Engelbert</em></strong></p>
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<p><strong>What is a short synopsis of the book? </strong></p>
<div style="width: 230px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://amzn.to/4orsaU5"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/PEngelbert-WhoIsPresent.jpg" alt="" width="220" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Pamela F. Engelbert, <em><a href="https://amzn.to/4orsaU5">Who is Present in Absence?: A Pentecostal Theological Praxis of Suffering and Healing</a></em> (Pickwick Publications, 2019)</p></div>
<p>There are two themes that define this book: stories and encounters with God. This book is about real pentecostals who suffered and how they experienced God and others in the midst of their suffering. It tells the stories of how God did not intervene when people had prayed. It, then, looks at those stories through the lens of Scripture and psychology to form a fuller theological understanding of suffering and healing.</p>
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<p><strong>What type of book is it? </strong></p>
<p>This is a practical theology book, which is not simply applied theology. I believe that practical theology asserts that acts of ministry reveal theology. This means, we know God by God’s acts of ministry to humanity, which is to say, we know God is love because God ministered to humanity by giving the Son. This practical theological book specifically focuses on how the body of Christ reflects God’s love through the congregational care they offer to each other.</p>
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<p><strong>Why did you write this book? </strong></p>
<p><div class="simplePullQuote"><p><strong><em>God is present in the midst of suffering, and we participate in the ministry of presence by being present with others in their suffering.</em></strong></p>
</div>A number of years ago, I walked through an extended period of difficulties in which I questioned my belief system. In essence, my god had died. I discovered during this time that other pentecostals remained distant and/or offered pious platitudes that failed to meet me in my pain. It was out of this experience that I offer this contribution to a pentecostal theological praxis of suffering and healing.</p>
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<p><strong>For whom is the book intended? </strong></p>
<p>This book is geared for those who are pursuing higher education, particularly a master’s degree or a PhD. It is also for those in the academy who are challenging pentecostals to strengthen their theology of suffering; this is a response to that call. Yet, it is also for the caregiver who seeks to help others who are suffering and for the carereceiver who wonders, “Where are you God?” Finally, and maybe most importantly, it is for the pentecostal, who has a tendency to speak a triumphal message that presents itself as power over rather than power with the sufferer.</p>
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<p><strong>What about those who are not in the academy? Will this book be helpful to them? </strong></p>
<p>I believe so. The book centers on stories of people, and I believe that as humans, we all relate to stories. I want to acknowledge that for some who are not in the academy that the first chapter may not capture their interest. If this is the case, I would recommend that they persevere through it, gleaning what they can, and then delve more deeply into the remainder of the book.</p>
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<p><strong>What do you hope people will take away from this book? </strong></p>
<p>God is present in the midst of suffering, and we participate in the ministry of presence by being present with others in their suffering. I think pentecostals have a unique opportunity to minister in this regard because we know the strength and peace that we receive when we experience God. Pentecostals tell me about the love and comfort they feel when they encounter God’s presence even though their situation may not have changed. This book is an invitation to practice that presence with those who are suffering, so sufferers may experience the strength, love, and comfort of God as we are present to them in their suffering. Since God is already present to sufferers even though they may be experiencing God’s apparent absence, we participate in God’s ministry of presence through the power of the Spirit, thereby allowing sufferers to experience God as we are present to them.</p>
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<p><strong>Where can we learn more about your books?</strong></p>
<p>I have created videos that introduce the content of <a href="https://amzn.to/4orsaU5"><em>Who Is Present in Absence?</em></a> and <em><a href="https://amzn.to/3J5M7Q6">See My Body, See Me</a>. </em>Two of the videos may be viewed at:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="https://wipfandstock.com/author/pamela-f-engelbert/">https://wipfandstock.com/author/pamela-f-engelbert/</a></p>
<p>Three videos about the books may be viewed at:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PamEngelbert-w6m">https://www.youtube.com/@PamEngelbert-w6m</a></p>
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		<title>75th Church of God International General Assembly: Historic Encounters, Hints of What Lies Ahead</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Richie]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; Official church historians consider the Church of God (Cleveland, TN USA) the oldest continuing, and one of the largest, Pentecostal ecclesial organizations in the world. It dates back to 1886 with roots in the Unicoi Mountains of Eastern Tennessee and Western North Carolina. It considers itself more of a movement than a denomination, more [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<div id="attachment_6917" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/MarkWilliams-GeneralAssembly2014_edit.jpg"><img class="wp-image-6917 size-thumbnail" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/MarkWilliams-GeneralAssembly2014_edit-150x150.jpg" alt="MarkWilliams-GeneralAssembly2014_edit" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Church of God Presiding Bishop Mark Williams preaching.</p></div>
<p>Official church historians consider the Church of God (Cleveland, TN USA) the oldest continuing, and one of the largest, Pentecostal ecclesial organizations in the world. It dates back to 1886 with roots in the Unicoi Mountains of Eastern Tennessee and Western North Carolina. It considers itself more of a movement than a denomination, more of a dynamic and organic union than an institution. Yet with around 7 million members worldwide and a constituency closer to 15 million the Church of God certainly has developed some of the trappings of an organized institution. One of these institutional necessities has been its biennial General Assembly.</p>
<p>True to its origins in the American Wesleyan Holiness Movement the Church of God early adopted a mostly Episcopal form of government. Among other things, this has meant a centralized polity, although with some admittedly hybrid elements of congregationalism showing through here and there. Every two years Ordained Bishops of the Church of God meet in a General Council to elect leaders, discuss business, and address pressing issues in the church and in society. Then the General Assembly, which still includes the General Council but adds other credentialed ministers as well as registered lay delegates, meets to confirm (or not) the suggestions of the Bishops. The General Assembly is the highest governing body of a group that insists it adheres strictly to the teachings of Scripture in its beliefs and practices. In between General Assembly sessions the Church of God is led by an International Executive Committee consisting of a Presiding Bishop (General Overseer), three assistants (executive bishops), and a Secretary General together with 18 councilors comprising the International Executive Council. The Presiding Bishop moderates the General Council and the General Assembly.</p>
<p><div class="simplePullQuote"><p><strong><em>Whenever and wherever the church gathers to worship, to witness, and, yes, to work, it becomes a sign of divine, heavenly grace in this earthly, material world. Or at least it should.</em></strong></p>
</div>The 75<sup>th</sup> Church of God International General Assembly met in Orlando, Florida from July 29 through August 1, 2014.[1] Pre-Assembly events included John Ashcroft, former US Attorney General, himself a Pentecostal (Assemblies of God), and other leadership guests from the broader Christian community. The conference theme was “One: One Faith, One Lord, One Mission”. The General Overseer’s “State of the Church Address” celebrated remarkable advances (mostly, in evangelism and mission) but also noted remaining challenges (mostly in identity and unity). The business of the Assembly began with discussion and expansion of the Church of God mission and vision statements. Seven emphases on Prayer, Pentecostal Worship, World Evangelization, Church Planting, Leadership Development, Care, and Interdependence were enlarged to include Communication, Discipleship, and Education, for a total of ten.</p>
<p>For me, this opening process suggests something of an interpretative key for the 75<sup>th</sup> General and what it says about where the Church of God is today and what it is about. Two words come to my mind: <em>retention </em>and <em>expansion</em>. The course of this General Assembly suggests to me that the Church of God is engaged in Herculean labors to retain its Holiness-Pentecostal heritage and identity and also to expand its ministries and mission for contemporary relevance and effectiveness in a world that has changed dramatically since the turn of the 20<sup>th</sup> century. As a Church of God member, bishop, pastor, and educator, as well as something of an interlocutor with others, I applaud these dual drives. However, I recognize that there is an inherent tension in remaining rooted in the past while taking wing into the future. Nevertheless, I’m convinced that the most consistent way forward for the Church of God still involves integrating just such continuity and creativity.</p>
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		<title>John Collins: Encounters With Biblical Theology</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Anderson]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; John J. Collins, Encounters With Biblical Theology (Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2005), 243 pages, ISBN 0800637690. In the book Encounters with Biblical Theology,1 author John Collins offers a collection of essays on different aspects of the Biblical Theology movement. Collins is the Holmes Professor of Old Testament Criticism and Interpretation at Yale University, and has [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><a href="https://amzn.to/2WrddqB"><img class="alignright" src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/JCollins-EncountersBiblicalTheology.jpg" alt="" width="187" height="281" /></a><strong>John J. Collins, <a href="https://amzn.to/2WrddqB"><em>Encounters With Biblical Theology</em></a> (Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2005), 243 pages, ISBN 0800637690.</strong></p>
<p>In the book <em><a href="https://amzn.to/2WrddqB">Encounters with Biblical Theology</a>,</em><sup>1</sup> author John Collins offers a collection of essays on different aspects of the Biblical Theology movement. Collins is the Holmes Professor of Old Testament Criticism and Interpretation at Yale University, and has written ably in the field of biblical theology. The essays in this volume are selections of Collins’ work, spread over a period of some thirty years; each engaging a different element of biblical theology, and addressing a variety of theoretical issues. Collins, himself, humbly concedes that, “taken together, they have the character of probes and soundings.”<sup>2</sup></p>
<p>Fifteen essays that make up the book are clustered under four distinct headings. First, are those that deal with “Theoretical Issues” within biblical theology (e.g., the very viability of a “Critical Biblical Theology,” etc.—pp. 11-46). Second, are topics in the Pentateuch (e.g. Faith and works in the command to sacrifice Isaac, the Exodus of the Israelites, etc.—pp. 47-88). Third, is the category of “Wisdom and Biblical Theology” (e.g., the biblical “Precedent” for natural theology, how the “biblical theology” movement all but ignored the Wisdom literature—pp. 91-117). And fourth, are works dealing with “Apocalyptic Literature” (e.g., the Legacy of apocalyptic literature and how it was used politically, both in ancient Israel and in the modern United States, etc.—129-189). Collins provides the reader with a brief survey of the biblical theology movement. Beginning with J.P. Gabler and Ernst Troeltsch, Collins moves to Wilhelm Wrede, G.E. Wright, Brevard Childs, and to a general examination of historical criticism. The task of the biblical theologian, Collins suggests, is “the critical evaluation of biblical speech about God”<sup>3</sup> This, he insists, includes not only historical narrative within the Bible but other genres as well.</p>
<div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="http://pneumareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/JohnJCollins.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="200" /><p class="wp-caption-text">John J. Collins is Holmes Professor of Old Testament Criticism and Interpretation at <a href="http://divinity.yale.edu/collins-1">Yale Divinity School</a>.</p></div>
<p>Like James Barr, Collins believes that historical criticism is not, strictly speaking, <em>a</em> method, but a collection of methods, such as source criticism, redaction criticism, sociological criticism. He states that throughout this work his goal is uncompromising “objectivity.” Yet, Collins himself acknowledges that objectivity is an elusive characteristic; easy to describe but difficult to attain. He states in the “Introduction” that although <em>he</em> strives for an impartial neutrality (and he believes such objectivity to be obtainable),<sup>4</sup> such detachment cannot be attained by those who approach the Bible from a confessional or believing approach. “A confessional approach…wants to privilege certain positions…thus in effect taking biblical theology out of the public discussion.”<sup>5</sup> Obviously, this goal for objectivity in interpretation did not begin with Collins but can be traced to the early 1960s.</p>
<p>In an article on biblical theology in 1962, Krister Stendahl posited a sharp distinction between what the Bible <em>meant</em> and what the Bible <em>means</em>.<sup>6</sup> Since that time, this characteristic has come to be the accepted norm in virtually all conservative, evangelical interpretation. Popular New Testament author Gordon Fee states as much when he states, “[T]the task of interpreting involves the student/reader at two levels. First, one has to hear the Word they [i.e., the original audience] heard; you must try to understand what was said to them back <em>then and there</em> (exegesis). Second, you must learn to hear the same Word in the <em>here and now</em> (hermeneutics).<sup>7</sup> This initial step seeks to be rigorously objective, thrusting all personal and ecclesiastical biases aside. Yet with the rise of postmodernism the claim to “objectivity” has come under intense scrutiny, and has, in many cases, been dismissed as a misguided goal that is little more than a fool’s errand.<sup>8</sup> Although some believe Collins to have been successful in <em>his</em> quest for objectivity,<sup>9</sup> it does not appear that such unbiased detachment was ultimately achieved by the Yale professor, as he approaches the biblical text with a “hermeneutics of suspicion.” Such suspicion, or mistrust, can be seen in the following examples. Collins writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>“It is no longer possible to defend the historicity of the stories of Abraham…it cannot be the historical truth” (p. 57); “…the historicity of the individual (Bible) stories cannot be defended” (p. 203); “The story (of Exodus) has a ‘history-like’ character, but nowhere in the biblical corpus has the ‘collapse of history’ been more painfully obvious…” (p. 67); “The Bible cannot support the claim to transcendent authority…The Bible can no more provide us with objective, transcendent moral certainties than can natural law” (p. 78); “Christianity is not a deposit of timeless truth but a religious tradition that derives its identity from continuity with the past” (p. 79); “Daniel 2 was not actually written in the Babylonian era, but some centuries later, under the fourth kingdom…and it does not report the actual dream of a Babylonian king, but a Jewish fabrication” (p. 134); “It is, of course, a notorious fact that the kingdoms predicted in apocalyptic visions (including Revelation) never come, and so…are…nourishing illusions” (p. 140); etc.</p></blockquote>
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