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	<title>Comments on: John MacArthur’s Strange Fire, reviewed by Monte Lee Rice</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, RW wrote to Monte Lee Rice: &quot;Thanks for the well-thought out response to MacArthur.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, RW wrote to Monte Lee Rice: &#8220;Thanks for the well-thought out response to MacArthur.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pneuma Review</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, BLJ asks: &quot;Should I read Stranger Fire?&quot;

Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot;I suppose if it serves a functional purpose towards understanding MacArthur &amp; similar parties, and the seeming debates/conflicts transpiring between Reformed-identified &#039;Censationalists,&#039; &#039;Continuuists,&#039; and Charismatics; and towards pastorally responding to quires and/or confusions emerging at the congregational level.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, BLJ asks: &#8220;Should I read Stranger Fire?&#8221;</p>
<p>Monte Lee Rice responded: &#8220;I suppose if it serves a functional purpose towards understanding MacArthur &amp; similar parties, and the seeming debates/conflicts transpiring between Reformed-identified &#8216;Censationalists,&#8217; &#8216;Continuuists,&#8217; and Charismatics; and towards pastorally responding to quires and/or confusions emerging at the congregational level.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pneuma Review</title>
		<link>https://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/#comment-35341</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, JKT wrote: &quot;I have found Macauthor to be nearly dishonest the way he selectively picks his &#039;proof texts&#039; and ignores others. He never paints an honest, complete picture. I have exposed some of his tactics here: http://mightygodblog.com/does-god-do-miracles-today/&quot;

 Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot;I wholly agree with you [JKT]. For this reason, never before have I written such a disproving critique on someone&#039;s work, which I did for Pneuma Review. I see little redemptive value in MacArthur&#039;s inflammatory rhetoric and miss-guided construals of the Pentecostal and Charismatic traditions. Nor do I find anything within his book helpful towards our own internal self-critique. We have better resources we can turn to.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, JKT wrote: &#8220;I have found Macauthor to be nearly dishonest the way he selectively picks his &#8216;proof texts&#8217; and ignores others. He never paints an honest, complete picture. I have exposed some of his tactics here: <a href="http://mightygodblog.com/does-god-do-miracles-today/" rel="nofollow">http://mightygodblog.com/does-god-do-miracles-today/</a>&#8221;</p>
<p> Monte Lee Rice responded: &#8220;I wholly agree with you [JKT]. For this reason, never before have I written such a disproving critique on someone&#8217;s work, which I did for Pneuma Review. I see little redemptive value in MacArthur&#8217;s inflammatory rhetoric and miss-guided construals of the Pentecostal and Charismatic traditions. Nor do I find anything within his book helpful towards our own internal self-critique. We have better resources we can turn to.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pneuma Review</title>
		<link>https://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/#comment-35340</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, BLJ wrote: &quot;Monte, I guess the question for me is this: what , if any, are the points of convergence from which a dialogue with MacArthur, and others for whom he speaks, might proceed? This assumes a willingness/disposition to do this, of course. A critique of his volume needs to speak to this (in my humble opinion, and no, I have yet to offer one myself). On the other hand, there is much to criticize within the Pentecostalism. What is missing is a substantive self-critique within the movement (though one is emerging, of which you and I seem to have an interest, see Thiselton&#039;s latest volume on the HS for suggestions). I offer my thoughts here as a Pentecostal, and certainly enjoy your reading your ideas...&quot;

Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot; Part of the problem I see, from reading between the lines of certain &quot;auto-biographical&quot; themes in MacArthur&#039;s book, is that there simply does not seem to be any established or sought after relations or networks MacArthur has with credible people representative of Pentecostal scholarship. One of the few he mentions to have personally met is Jack Deere. Apparently, if I recall correctly, Deere and Paul Cain met MacArthur in his office, and Cain appeared besides himself; MacArthur alleges Deere later apologised for Cain&#039;s behaviour.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, BLJ wrote: &#8220;Monte, I guess the question for me is this: what , if any, are the points of convergence from which a dialogue with MacArthur, and others for whom he speaks, might proceed? This assumes a willingness/disposition to do this, of course. A critique of his volume needs to speak to this (in my humble opinion, and no, I have yet to offer one myself). On the other hand, there is much to criticize within the Pentecostalism. What is missing is a substantive self-critique within the movement (though one is emerging, of which you and I seem to have an interest, see Thiselton&#8217;s latest volume on the HS for suggestions). I offer my thoughts here as a Pentecostal, and certainly enjoy your reading your ideas&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Monte Lee Rice responded: &#8221; Part of the problem I see, from reading between the lines of certain &#8220;auto-biographical&#8221; themes in MacArthur&#8217;s book, is that there simply does not seem to be any established or sought after relations or networks MacArthur has with credible people representative of Pentecostal scholarship. One of the few he mentions to have personally met is Jack Deere. Apparently, if I recall correctly, Deere and Paul Cain met MacArthur in his office, and Cain appeared besides himself; MacArthur alleges Deere later apologised for Cain&#8217;s behaviour.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Norman Smith</title>
		<link>https://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/#comment-35339</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would there be a willingness for John Macarthur or any who believe the Pentecostal beliefs oppose what we believe to meet???  There is One Way, One Truth and One LIfe.  Only one.  Not Catholic, Pentecostal, Muslim, Buddhist or any other religion.  These all of the four are not the same.  Good on John for holding his ground.  Jesus Christ was on his own not trying to find relationships between religions, He brought one truth, one way.  And shame on those from a human perspective and the judgement be to the One Who is who use the Holy Spirit as a manifestation of their own needs.   Pentecostals if they think they are anything like us, need to back away from the vile practices of these movements, cackling spirits and men doing workings in the name of the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit is God, a gentleman, does come in like lightening and cause a bunch of people to scream and laugh and carry on.  You entertain the spirits not the Spirit.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would there be a willingness for John Macarthur or any who believe the Pentecostal beliefs oppose what we believe to meet???  There is One Way, One Truth and One LIfe.  Only one.  Not Catholic, Pentecostal, Muslim, Buddhist or any other religion.  These all of the four are not the same.  Good on John for holding his ground.  Jesus Christ was on his own not trying to find relationships between religions, He brought one truth, one way.  And shame on those from a human perspective and the judgement be to the One Who is who use the Holy Spirit as a manifestation of their own needs.   Pentecostals if they think they are anything like us, need to back away from the vile practices of these movements, cackling spirits and men doing workings in the name of the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit is God, a gentleman, does come in like lightening and cause a bunch of people to scream and laugh and carry on.  You entertain the spirits not the Spirit.  </p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Norman Smith</title>
		<link>https://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/#comment-3466</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would there be a willingness for John Macarthur or any who believe the Pentecostal beliefs oppose what we believe to meet???  There is One Way, One Truth and One LIfe.  Only one.  Not Catholic, Pentecostal, Muslim, Buddhist or any other religion.  These all of the four are not the same.  Good on John for holding his ground.  Jesus Christ was on his own not trying to find relationships between religions, He brought one truth, one way.  And shame on those from a human perspective and the judgement be to the One Who is who use the Holy Spirit as a manifestation of their own needs.   Pentecostals if they think they are anything like us, need to back away from the vile practices of these movements, cackling spirits and men doing workings in the name of the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit is God, a gentleman, does come in like lightening and cause a bunch of people to scream and laugh and carry on.  You entertain the spirits not the Spirit.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would there be a willingness for John Macarthur or any who believe the Pentecostal beliefs oppose what we believe to meet???  There is One Way, One Truth and One LIfe.  Only one.  Not Catholic, Pentecostal, Muslim, Buddhist or any other religion.  These all of the four are not the same.  Good on John for holding his ground.  Jesus Christ was on his own not trying to find relationships between religions, He brought one truth, one way.  And shame on those from a human perspective and the judgement be to the One Who is who use the Holy Spirit as a manifestation of their own needs.   Pentecostals if they think they are anything like us, need to back away from the vile practices of these movements, cackling spirits and men doing workings in the name of the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit is God, a gentleman, does come in like lightening and cause a bunch of people to scream and laugh and carry on.  You entertain the spirits not the Spirit.  </p>
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		<title>By: Pneuma Review</title>
		<link>https://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/#comment-2139</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, BLJ asks: &quot;Should I read Stranger Fire?&quot;

Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot;I suppose if it serves a functional purpose towards understanding MacArthur &amp; similar parties, and the seeming debates/conflicts transpiring between Reformed-identified &#039;Censationalists,&#039; &#039;Continuuists,&#039; and Charismatics; and towards pastorally responding to quires and/or confusions emerging at the congregational level.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, BLJ asks: &quot;Should I read Stranger Fire?&quot;</p>
<p>Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot;I suppose if it serves a functional purpose towards understanding MacArthur &amp; similar parties, and the seeming debates/conflicts transpiring between Reformed-identified &#039;Censationalists,&#039; &#039;Continuuists,&#039; and Charismatics; and towards pastorally responding to quires and/or confusions emerging at the congregational level.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Pneuma Review</title>
		<link>https://pneumareview.com/john-macarthurs-strange-fire-reviewed-monte-rice/#comment-2138</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, BLJ wrote: &quot;Monte, I guess the question for me is this: what , if any, are the points of convergence from which a dialogue with MacArthur, and others for whom he speaks, might proceed? This assumes a willingness/disposition to do this, of course. A critique of his volume needs to speak to this (in my humble opinion, and no, I have yet to offer one myself). On the other hand, there is much to criticize within the Pentecostalism. What is missing is a substantive self-critique within the movement (though one is emerging, of which you and I seem to have an interest, see Thiselton&#039;s latest volume on the HS for suggestions). I offer my thoughts here as a Pentecostal, and certainly enjoy your reading your ideas...&quot;

Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot; Part of the problem I see, from reading between the lines of certain &quot;auto-biographical&quot; themes in MacArthur&#039;s book, is that there simply does not seem to be any established or sought after relations or networks MacArthur has with credible people representative of Pentecostal scholarship. One of the few he mentions to have personally met is Jack Deere. Apparently, if I recall correctly, Deere and Paul Cain met MacArthur in his office, and Cain appeared besides himself; MacArthur alleges Deere later apologised for Cain&#039;s behaviour.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, BLJ wrote: &quot;Monte, I guess the question for me is this: what , if any, are the points of convergence from which a dialogue with MacArthur, and others for whom he speaks, might proceed? This assumes a willingness/disposition to do this, of course. A critique of his volume needs to speak to this (in my humble opinion, and no, I have yet to offer one myself). On the other hand, there is much to criticize within the Pentecostalism. What is missing is a substantive self-critique within the movement (though one is emerging, of which you and I seem to have an interest, see Thiselton&#039;s latest volume on the HS for suggestions). I offer my thoughts here as a Pentecostal, and certainly enjoy your reading your ideas&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot; Part of the problem I see, from reading between the lines of certain &quot;auto-biographical&quot; themes in MacArthur&#039;s book, is that there simply does not seem to be any established or sought after relations or networks MacArthur has with credible people representative of Pentecostal scholarship. One of the few he mentions to have personally met is Jack Deere. Apparently, if I recall correctly, Deere and Paul Cain met MacArthur in his office, and Cain appeared besides himself; MacArthur alleges Deere later apologised for Cain&#039;s behaviour.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Pneuma Review</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, JKT wrote: &quot;I have found Macauthor to be nearly dishonest the way he selectively picks his &#039;proof texts&#039; and ignores others. He never paints an honest, complete picture. I have exposed some of his tactics here: http://mightygodblog.com/does-god-do-miracles-today/&quot;

 Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot;I wholly agree with you [JKT]. For this reason, never before have I written such a disproving critique on someone&#039;s work, which I did for Pneuma Review. I see little redemptive value in MacArthur&#039;s inflammatory rhetoric and miss-guided construals of the Pentecostal and Charismatic traditions. Nor do I find anything within his book helpful towards our own internal self-critique. We have better resources we can turn to.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, JKT wrote: &quot;I have found Macauthor to be nearly dishonest the way he selectively picks his &#039;proof texts&#039; and ignores others. He never paints an honest, complete picture. I have exposed some of his tactics here: <a href="http://mightygodblog.com/does-god-do-miracles-today/&#038;quot" rel="nofollow">http://mightygodblog.com/does-god-do-miracles-today/&#038;quot</a>;</p>
<p> Monte Lee Rice responded: &quot;I wholly agree with you [JKT]. For this reason, never before have I written such a disproving critique on someone&#039;s work, which I did for Pneuma Review. I see little redemptive value in MacArthur&#039;s inflammatory rhetoric and miss-guided construals of the Pentecostal and Charismatic traditions. Nor do I find anything within his book helpful towards our own internal self-critique. We have better resources we can turn to.&quot;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, RW wrote to Monte Lee Rice: &quot;Thanks for the well-thought out response to MacArthur.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Pentecostal Theology Worldwide, RW wrote to Monte Lee Rice: &quot;Thanks for the well-thought out response to MacArthur.&quot;</p>
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